Archive through May 16, 2023
Star Fleet Universe Discussion Board: Federation & Empire: F&E Annual Gaming Events:
STRATCON 2023 July 22-30 Amarillo:
Archive through May 16, 2023
Alan,
Unfortunately, that rare one is the one I have. But the doc seems pretty confident.
Ryan man I am sorry bud. I wish you all the best and a speedy successful recovery.
StratCon logistics:
All: We will need a full set of maps / charts / counters plus at least 6-10x counters for the Feds in order to play the scenario we are discussing.
Ryan was going to drive and bring his set so with him out we now need a new supplier who can bring what we need. If we cannot get a set to do Eye we will have to shift scenario choices. We will need at least a set to play the scenario of choice.
Who can bring maps / charts / counters?
I do note: A map is relatively easy, charts are also simple to bring.
Counters to supply a full game or multiple games will need a vehicle or a commercial ship.
Take care of yourself, Ryan!
If someone wants to take the time to pack the needed counters compactly (baggies, not bins) and ship them here, ADB volunteers to ship them back at our expense.
I have the 1993 edition box set counters and carrier war module (similar vintage) set I could bring if they are of value.
If people are willing to deal with laminated charts, rather than hard-mounted, I can bring a full set of fleet charts and the 1" fleet markers. I'll also bring my usual player-aid folios.
Pete is driving? Does his trunk have room for a full set of counters?
I can get a map on the plane...all of my counters however are organized in trays and while I am using the really nice Southwest Airline bags to locally move them, they have zero padding and would be crushed and broken by the friendly baggage handlers.
I have 3 of them with 15 trays each.
Pete would probably have room for counters. I'll ask him. I probably have enough to cover the game.
The only thing I might be short on is Fed counters. I'll check and see what I need.
It's 4x times I thought with the ISC. Is it 6x?
Production is 4x. Start remains 3x.
Actually
(632.42) FEDERATION: Every Federation ship is quintupled; that is, every Federation ship is joined by four identical ships. This does not include bases or ships on off-map survey but does in- clude repair ships, FRDs, and prime teams. The Federation re- ceives eight extra Reserve markers and can add one to any or all numbered fleets; any others go to the Home Fleet. Ships are released from the mothball reserve (which was quintupled) at triple the normal rate. Pods limits are quintupled.
(632.53) FEDERATION SCHEDULE: The Federation production schedule from the original rules is tripled (including free fighters; See schedule)
If the ISC is used, quadruple the original schedule.
The Federation can make six major conversions per turn. The Federation may use the starbases in the capital province for major conversions.
The Federation can buy three SWACS per turn and gets three free SWACS per turn. All special production limits (e.g., scouts) are tripled except police ships (532.1), Starbase Produc- tion: (431.5), Survey Advanced Rule (542.0).
Joe or anyone who is looking at their set as a possible option:
Here is the Scenario OOB (I modified the standard per the rules above)
632 Eye of the Storm Fed OOB (w/ ISC mod schedule)
(702.11) Y168 ORDER OF BATTLE
FIRST (HOME) FLEET: Set up in 2908.
Line Ships: 5xDN, 5xCC, 10xCA, 5xCS, 15xCL, 15xDD, 30xFF.
Support Ships: 5xDNL, 5xCF, 5xSC, 5xCMC, 10xCLH, 15xTG, 15xFFT.
Auxiliaries: 10xLAV, 10xFTL, 15xFTS.
Resources: ADM, 5xAPT, 5xPTR, 5xFXP, 5xENG, 5xFRD, 15xMB.
<STRIKE>Pre-War Construction:
Line Ships: 3xNCL, 3xFF, Y171S
Carrier Support: SWAC Y170S; [CVA+ECL+ 2xDE] Y171S
Support Ships: FFS Y171S.</STRIKE>
THIRD (KLINGON BORDER) FLEET: Set up within four hexes of the Klingon Neutral Zone, but not in 7th or 4th Fleet areas.
Line Ships: 5xCC, 15xCA, 15xCL, 15xDD, 30xFF.
Carrier Support: 5x[CVS+DE+FFE].
Support Ships: 5xDNL, 5xCF, 5xCMC, 5xSC, 5xTG.
Auxiliaries: 5xSAV 5xFHL.
Resources: ADM, 5xFXP, 5xFRD, RESV.
Pre-War Construction:
Line Ships: DN Y168F; 3xNCL, 3xFF Y170S.
Carrier Support: [CVB+DE+FFE] Y169S; SWAC Y171S.
Support Ships: 1xFFS Y169S.
FOURTH (KZINTI BORDER) FLEET: Set up within three hexes of the Kzinti Neutral Zone and north of hex row xx05 inclusive.
Line Ships: 5xCC, 15xCA, 15xDD, 6xSC, 15xFF.
Support Ships: 5xDNL, 5xCF, 5xCFF, 5xTG.
Auxiliaries: 5xSAV, 5xFHL.
Resources: ADM, 5xPTR, RESV.
<STRIKE>Pre-War Construction:
Line Ships: DN, 3xNCL, 3xFF Y170F.</STRIKE>
FIFTH (GORN BORDER) FLEET: Set up within three hexes of the Gorn Neutral Zone and north of xx08 inclusive.
Line Ships: 5xCC, 15xCA, 15xDD, 15xFF.
Support Ships: 5xSC, 5xCFF, 5xTG.
Auxiliaries: 5xFHL.
Resources: ADM, 5xPTR, RESV.
SIXTH (ROMULAN BORDER) FLEET: Set up within four hexes of the Romulan Neutral Zone, but not in the Seventh or Fifth Fleet areas.
Line Ships: 5xCC, 15xCA, 15xCL, 15xDD, 30xFF.
Carrier Support: 5x[CVS+DE+FFE].
Support Ships: 5xDNL, 5xSC, 5xCMC, 5xTG.
Auxiliaries: 5xSAV, 5xFHL.
Resources: ADM, 5xFRD, 5xFXP, RESV.
<STRIKE>Pre-War Construction:
Line Ships: DN Y169F.
Carrier Support: [CVB+DE+FFE] Y170S. Support Ships: FFS Y170S.</STRIKE>
SEVENTH (THOLIAN BORDER) FLEET: Set up in provinces 2813 and/or 2815.
Line Ships: 5xCC, 15xCA, 15xDD, 15xFF.
Support Ships: 5xSC, 5xCFF, 5xFFT.
Resources: ADM, 5xAPT.
SECOND (EXPLORATION) FLEET: Set up in 2901.
Carrier Support: 15xCVL.
Support Ships 5xCOV.
Resources: 5xAPT.
Survey Duty:
Support Ships: 25xGSC, 10xCLS. The three CVLs and COV (above) are withdrawn from survey duty and used as light carrier/scouts in wartime.
GENERAL HQ: Assign as appropriate. Support Ships: 30xMON, 4xPOL. Auxiliaries: 15xREPR.
PODS: 15xVP, 15xBP, 5xR-POD, 5xSP, 10xAP.
Resources: 3xDIP, 15xF-14, 15xF-15.
Scenario: Add 8xRESV
(702.12) RESERVES
(702.121) Mothball Reserves
30xCA, 10xCS, 90xCL, 90xFF, 15xDD
Can activate 3x[CA/CS, DD, 3xCL, 3xFF ] each turn at full war, including turn of attack.
Can activate one CL and one FF per turn during Limited War.
Edit: The GSC and CLS are not multiplied by 5. The CVL and COV are.
Lawrence,
Pete informed me over the weekend that he won't be attending after all. I'm checking to see if I can get my counters there another way.
In the meantime, I'll try and see if I'll have enough counters for the setup plus 6 turns. I doubt we'd get any further than that.
With another person out, we've probably hit the minimum number of players to be able to do Eye of the Storm.
Right now, it looks like 8 (only counting F8 & higher):
Bergen
Knipfer
Matthews
Ritche
Schaff
Stevenson
Strong
Wong
If we leave out the ISC and have 2 Fed players, it can still work, but any fewer and things could get difficult. Maybe have one person take both the Lyrans and Hydrans as a final contingency plan?
If someone can figure out a way to get 80-ish Plano boxes from DC to Amarillo and back, I'm pretty sure I have enough counters to support this. I just did a quick (in)sanity check on the Feds: 126 CAs and 221 NCLs, plus whatever is sitting in the tub o' really old counters. The only things I can immediately think of that might come up short are prime teams and some of the auxes.
(1 & 2) I suggest two Federation players. (3rd) I can manage the ISC and Gorns. That leaves five players to handle the other empires. Consider the option of (4th) Romulan and Tholian, (5th) Klingon and Vudar, (6th) Hydran, (7th) Kzinti, and (8th) Lyran and LDR.
I would recommend no Minor Empires.
Ryan, I disagree as the introduction of (632.0) states:
Quote:Klingon diplomats swept across the galaxy,warning other empires of the threat posed by the Federation economy, and within days every empire, enclave, and minor power declared war on the Federation and moved to attack.
The only help the Feds would get under this, and it probably won't come into play is the arrival of the Seltorians.
The LDR is going to be constrained by their own supply system, but could help the Lyran economy based on trade issues.
Also, we can use blank counters and write the ship on them for some of the ships with few counters per expansion, e.g., Fed DNL.
With Pete out, I'll take the Romulans. Klingons are available
I was considering this option but requires a team effort:
As I (inspired by Ryan's set the last couple years) have just revised my storage situation, I would count up just my Feds to see if I can make it work for this scenario.
If so I could bring my own counters for the Feds. If I am short on 1-2 sheets of AO or SO, PO. I know a local guy (likes to call himself 'A River') that might be able to help me out for a few bucks. 
I am certain I can get the 4 to 5 boxes into my traveling plan but NOT 45 boxes.
Could everyone bring their own empire, if we cannot get a full set? They are an easy sort at the end, as color scheme would tell us know who owns what. For me the path to home would be to bring a gallon Ziplock bag for the return (easy).
My LDR are all in one box (if it was decided they participate tho subbing Lyrans would be fine too)
BTW the LDR involvement with the Feds would last about as long as lighting a wooden match.
Not a bad idea. This way, everyone is bringing boxes they are familiar with, built to their own standards.
Sounds good to me. I only have to bring 2 boxes for the Klingons (1 for ols-series and K-hulls, one for the later stuff)