Has the counter been printed? If it's in TO then change the counter to SAR.

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Saturday, January 23, 2021 - 02:26 am: Edit

The counter is in the I/J reprint from FO.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, January 23, 2021 - 01:22 pm: Edit

Change made but I'm not going to post a new SIT just for that.

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Sunday, January 24, 2021 - 11:46 pm: Edit

SRG: Conversion listing should be From LN: 5 and From KN 5+2 (removing the generic) From DD: 5 L. Bergen 24 JAN 2021

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Friday, March 26, 2021 - 03:34 pm: Edit

Hydrans: War Destroyers: FCX: Cost: For DW: 4+9(X) should be 5+9(X). The FCX is a DW version of the FCR carrying a full squadron of Stinger X fighters. This ship has the ability to be an emergency escort in the same manner as all other FCR ships. Thomas Mathews 26 Mar 2021

By John Wyszynski (Starsabre) on Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - 09:20 pm: Edit

Hydran IC - The description should be updated to match Hydran MSSB to "One standard squadron (6 Fighter Factors), one oversized squadron (12 Fighter Factors), and 2 Hybrid Fighter Factors." The standard squadron can be replaced by heavy fighter squadron (8 Factors) to become the Steel Chancellor. - Wyszynski 13 April 2021

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Hydran Dreadnought: ICH; Ref 84A: Factors 5-12(8H14)/2-6(4H7); Future; CR10; Y180; DN(2); From PAL: 6+34, From IC: 0+4; For PAL: 20+42; Salv 4.000; NOTES: Heavy Carrier with Heavy Fighters (Steel Chancellor). One heavy fighter squadron (8H), one oversized squadron (12) plus 2 hybrid fighters. FEDS - 19 MAY 2023

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Thursday, April 15, 2021 - 08:53 pm: Edit

By John Wyszynski (Starsabre) on Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - 09:20 pm: Edit

Hydran IC - The description should be updated to match Hydran MSSB to "One standard squadron (6 Fighter Factors), one oversized squadron (12 Fighter Factors), and 2 Hybrid Fighter Factors." The standard squadron can be replaced by heavy fighter squadron (8 Factors) to become the Steel Chancellor. - Wyszynski 13 April 2021

THOMAS: Non-concur. (525.316 C) states: The ship has two squadrons of fighters, one being 6 factors, the other being an oversized squadron with all remaining factors.

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FEDS Concurs with Wyszynski. RATIONALE:

(525.316 C): Rule conflicts with SFB rule (R9.84) which states:

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Carrier: This ship is a true carrier (R9.R4); see (J4.75), (J4.93), (J11.13), and (J15.22). The 40 fighters are organized into three squadrons, these being:

A standard squadron of 12.

Two squadrons of 12 fighters each but which count as a single squadron under (S8.32)

A fourth squadron of four fighters that are considered to be hybrid fighters (S8.321) and are part of the ship (intended to provide local defense) and do not count against the limit on the number of fighters that can be brought to a single battle (S8.23).

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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 08, 2021 - 01:23 pm: Edit

SIT Hydran Monarch Battleship is a hybrid carrier, not a true carrier. It does not have to be escorted. The BBV and BBS versions of this conjectural battleship are of course true carriers which (being a heavier carrier and a space control ship, respectively) require escorts. This corrects an error made in a previous product when somebody asked the overworked designer a question at the last minute and, shucks, he just got it wrong.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 08, 2021 - 11:56 am: Edit

(709) JUST WHEN DID THE HYDRANS GET X? The Hydran X-ship introduction date in Annex (709.0) is wrong. The annex lists Spring Y183 (Turn #30) but Star Fleet Battles Module G2 and Star Fleet Battles Module X1 both list the RNX and LNX as in service in Y182. Change the Hydran X-ship date to Spring Y182 (Turn #28).

(703.0) The Klingons, Kzintis, and Lyrans can produce a "pair of pods" each turn. As long as both are types normally operated in pairs (and of types that can legally be mixed on a single tug), they could be two different types. For example, the Lyrans could build a KBP and a KTP on the same turn, as they are a "pair" just not a "matched pair".
(705.0) The Klingons, Kzintis, and Lyrans can produce a "pair of pods" each turn. As long as both are types normally operated in pairs (and of types that can legally be mixed on a single tug), they could be two different types. For example, the Lyrans could build a KBP and a KTP on the same turn, as they are a "pair" just not a "matched pair".
(711.0) The Klingons, Kzintis, and Lyrans can produce a "pair of pods" each turn. As long as both are types normally operated in pairs (and of types that can legally be mixed on a single tug), they could be two different types. For example, the Lyrans could build a KBP and a KTP on the same turn, as they are a "pair" just not a "matched pair".

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 08, 2021 - 04:03 pm: Edit

SIT Hydran SIT: FCP service date Y139. FCX should list "CL26" rather than (R9.69); FCX Year In Service is Y183. IC should be listed as part of AO not F&E. SBX should have 18H/9H Stinger-X fighters. SBX converstion from BTX is 45+18.
SIT Hydran: The Master SIT lists the Hydran Lord Marshal as being available in Y159, but scenario (607.2) says Y160. Ruling: This comes from the old days before there was a SIT and just got missed when the scenario was updated. It should be available in Y159, so change (607.2).

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 22, 2021 - 03:48 pm: Edit

FXM X-Stinger modules 441.7
0 factors, 4.5 fighters, YIS Y182, From FTM 1+3, built 1+4.5, costs paid in XTMs.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Wednesday, September 29, 2021 - 10:20 am: Edit

Hydran: New Heavy Cruisers: VED: From: NSC: 4Ñ + 13. Reason: Missing conversion: the VED can be converted from a NSC. Thomas Mathews 29 Sep 2021

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Tuesday, May 10, 2022 - 10:09 am: Edit

FSD: Date Avail: blank should read Date Avail: Y172 Reason: Other Empire SITS list the Date Avail as Y172. Thomas Mathews 10 May 2022

By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Thursday, November 24, 2022 - 09:11 am: Edit

Moved from the General SIT discussions.

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Under 318.8: "The above are examples. Ships that have oversized squadrons are listed in the notes column of the Ship Information Tables."

The Hydran ID has 15 fighter factors, and the Romulan SPB has 8, but neither of these units have notes about these being oversized. Should they have a note about being oversized?

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Wednesday, November 23, 2022 - 11:44 pm: Edit

The Hydran is a standard squadron and hybrid fighter from the DN.

The Romulan is the standard size for the ship.

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By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Saturday, November 26, 2022 - 05:28 pm: Edit

The ID has 12 factors, the 4ID shows 15 as the DE escort has 3 factors of its own ...

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Monday, December 05, 2022 - 07:16 pm: Edit

Hydran OS: Notes: ADD: One oversized squadron.

Per reference in R9.56

L Bergen - 5 DEC 2022

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, December 06, 2022 - 06:02 am: Edit

The Hydran ID is a CVA that only has 12 standard fighter factors and no casual fighter factors.

FEDS

By David Hiller (Dhhgamer) on Sunday, December 25, 2022 - 04:22 pm: Edit

Hydran LAP, ASC, and SAP are listed as 179F. Should that be 180 when PFT are available? You can't actually make PF for them in 179F?

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Monday, December 26, 2022 - 11:58 am: Edit

Per 526.47, most empires, including the Hydrans, get a free SAP on the first turn of PF deployment. For the Hydrans, that is 179F, so the SAP is definitely OK as a 179F in-service date.

By David Hiller (Dhhgamer) on Monday, December 26, 2022 - 06:39 pm: Edit

Jason, thanks, that makes sense. Another question from Tactical Operation - KNH and LNH modules have some dates well before the introduction of Heavy Fighters (both) and PF (LNH). I presume that the modules aren't available until the dates each are introduced?

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, May 18, 2023 - 09:31 pm: Edit

Hydran Battleships MNL: Recommend the following:
Modify NOTES to read: Conjectural Fast Battleship (525.12). Single Ship, Hybrid, Light Carrier. One squadron of 3 fighter factors plus 6 hybrid factors.
Correct BUILD COST to read: SUB MNR: 30+12

Ref: SFU (R9.A17): Carrier: Twelve of the fighters are considered to be
“hybrid” fighters and are part of the ship as are the fighters of
a Ranger (R9.2). The other six fighters are a separate fighter
squadron for purposes of determining the number of carrier
fighters the Hydrans can bring to a given battle (S8.23).

FEDS - 18 MAY 2023

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Hydran Battleships MNR: Recommend the following:
Modify NOTES to read: Conjectural Battleship. Single Ship, Hybrid, Light Carrier. One squadron of 3 fighter factors plus 6 hybrid factors.
Correct BUILD COST to read: (436.0): 36+12

Ref: SFU (R9.55): Carrier: Twelve of the fighters are considered to be
“hybrid” fighters and are part of the ship as are the fighters of
a Ranger (R9.2). The other six fighters are a separate fighter
squadron for purposes of determining the number of carrier
fighters the Hydrans can bring to a given battle (S8.23).

FEDS - 18 MAY 2023

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Thursday, May 18, 2023 - 10:33 pm: Edit

(FEDS FIXED ERROR ABOVE)

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Friday, May 19, 2023 - 04:40 am: Edit

Hydran Battleships MNS: Recommend the following:
Modify NOTES to read: Conjectural Stellar Domination Ship. One squadron of 6 fighter factors plus 3 hybrid factors.
Correct CONVERSION to read: From MNR: 5+3+¶

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Hydran Battleships MNV: Recommend the following:
Modify NOTES to read: Conjectural Heavy Carrier. One squadron of 12 fighter factors plus 3 hybrid factors.
Correct CONVERSION to read: From MNR: 4+15

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Friday, May 19, 2023 - 05:31 am: Edit

Hydran HEAVY BATTLECRUISERS OS: Add to NOTE: BATTLE CARRIER. One oversized squadron (9). FEDS - 19 MAY 2023

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Friday, May 19, 2023 - 11:19 am: Edit

FEDS FIXED TYPO.