I want a Hero system. The problem is...

1. Steve Long doesn't have time to do it himself.

2. Steve Long doubts seriously if any other writer could do it (other than a few that Steve Long keeps busy on his own stuff).

3. So far, Steve Long is right. (Three different people said they would write a sample page and send it to me and none of them have done so.)

By Scott Tenhoff (Scottt) on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 02:12 pm: Edit

That would just be too many Steve's involved with ADB products.

SVC
SPP
Steve Jackson
Steve Long

I think a conferance call between them would be pretty hillarious to listen in on.

By Darren Kehrer (Kehrer1701) on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 06:02 pm: Edit

Steve Long did write stuff for other Star Trek game lines, he would be the PERFECT guy for the job. I think a Hero version would really be nice, but just my opinion. Maybe I can start some chats on the hero website and get others to weight in regarding their desire to see such a product. If Hero sees the demand, that might increase that project on the priority list. Also, with someone's persmission, you could post such info as wanting submission examples. This is all just my 2 cents and may not be worth that.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 11:37 am: Edit

I'll talk to Steve L when I get a chance. Something to remember is that there is little if anything to "write" for RPG books since existing books just have to be converted. Steve L would not have to write the Klingon book (I already did) just convert the game stats to Hero.

By Darren Kehrer (Kehrer1701) on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 04:11 pm: Edit

Good point, I think the HERO line would benefit from such a product since the Hero line itself has been around for awhile.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 12:16 pm: Edit

I could see it, but the problem with HERO or any other system is you have to have a WRITER who can do it.

Steve Long says he won't do it (not time) and that he doubts we can find a writer who is up to the task. He has agreed to the idea that anybody who thinks they can write the HERO conversion can do a few pages and send them to us (and we'll send them to him) and he'll green-light the project only if the writer proves the ability to do the stuff. So far, three writers have said "I want the job" and all three have been sent sample files and not one of them has turned in an "audition file" (and indeed, none of them even answer Emails asking when they will).

By Darren Kehrer (Kehrer1701) on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 10:12 pm: Edit

Oh well. I know PD Hero has got some chatter over on the Hero forums. IF I had the knowledge, I would do it in a heartbeat. As of late, I am more of the d6 fan anyway. Thanks for responding.

By Eulis Hill (Starlocke) on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 12:30 am: Edit

Actually, he may know who produced the Hero version of Traveller that I saw. They did it for free, I don't know the authors but it was reasonably well done.
Hope that helps

By Eulis Hill (Starlocke) on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 12:27 pm: Edit

SVC: has anyone requested or started talking about (other than me) an early years PD book? I have the early years module ordered for resource material. My gaming group is poised for such an item.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 01:47 pm: Edit

Eulis : I am sure somebody has mentioned it, but cannot recall such a case.

By Andy Palmer (Andypalmer) on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 02:17 pm: Edit

Eulis. The PD Federation book may provide much of what you are looking for.

By Eulis Hill (Starlocke) on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 04:11 pm: Edit

well when it comes out I will buy it for sure. Until then I will wait so as to not create alot of new stuff so that I am not contributing garbage

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 12:02 pm: Edit

Is this the right thread for proposing possible future books?


If so, I would suggest a possible module:

Prime Directive: Monsters and Magellanics.

This book would bring together data for the various space monsters seen in the universe (such as the Planet Killer - a likely candidate for the front cover art - and the Juggernaut, as well as Space Boars, Death Probes, and the like.)

Also, since Module Prime Alpha is not to be re-released (so far) perhaps its information about Andromedan robots could be combined with a full profile detailing (what we know of) Andromedan robots, starships, bases and technologies. (They are fairly monstrous to those they encounter, after all...)

Since the Andromedans could allow for scenarios set during Operation Unity, this book would serve as a handy place for the races from the Lesser Magellanic Cloud to be presented - with racial profiles for the Baduvai, the native H'garrans (whom the Baduvai displaced when colonising H'gar), the Uthiki, the Eneen (and their subject races), the Jumokians, Maghadim, Chonak and Yrol. The starships of the LMC, the infrastructures and political organisaions of their pre-Andro empires, the asteroid bases they clung to in the long years of Andromedan conquest, and the relations between the Magellanic remnants and the Unity forces in Y202 and beyond, could all be introduced.


Sound reasonable?


Gary

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 03:38 pm: Edit

Space monsters and magellanics would be two separate books.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 04:06 pm: Edit

Would there be room for the Andromedans in a 'monster' book?


Gary

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 04:28 pm: Edit

no

By F. Douglas Wall (Knarf) on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 04:39 pm: Edit

I don't know if a "monster" book is really the way to go. I know those d20 people love their Monster Manuals and collect them as they come out, but that's not why I picked up PD. I'd rather see a bestiary section in a world book detailing the creatures that live there. Science fiction worlds are much harder to genericize than fantasy worlds.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 05:59 pm: Edit

But I'm referring more to the interstellar 'monsters' out there - from the artificial kind (such as the Juggernauts and Planet Killers) to the 'deep space life forms' such as Space Boars, 'wild' Alunda, Space Dragons, Moray Eels and what have you.


Gary

By Gary Plana (Garyplana) on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 11:18 am: Edit

This looks like a good place ... we've been talking about a book, or new series of books, all written to support all of the game systems we currently do (GURPS, D20, D20M, and others that are on the way like D6). These books would include:

Planetary descriptions similar to what's in the GF, GK, GR books but with more detail, perhaps 5-6 pages per entry.

Adventures, both big well developed ones like RESCUE ON ROON or THE WANDERING CHILD, and clusters of adventure seeds.

NPCs, fully fleshed out with compleat character sheets for each system, which the GM would use in either the abovementioned adventures, or in something the GM wrote.

Let's hear your thoughts and ideas. SVC is going to be out of the loop for at least the rest of the week, so I'd like to have something to talk with him about after he gets caught up.

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 01:18 pm: Edit

One reason I'd like to develop planetary system books is to provide examples of what the major archetypes look like in general. What does a major world system look like? What does a major planet system look like? What does a military complex look like or a mining operation? What does a rat hole back water colony full of scum and villainy look like?

Really creative people can do this work but do they always have the time. Maybe the time they have is the time to play and they want to maximize that time playing instead of developing.

SVC has said that adventure modules don't sell but I'd suggest that this is because they are one adventure. A book of adventure locations would be even more useful, IMHO. I did my share of RPG'ing and GM'ing so I'm speaking from my own experience. Richening the background is more useful to me as a GM than a straight adventure module.

The other thing about adventure modules is that the totally suck if the players have read it and you don't need a GM's license to buy them so...

By Gary Plana (Garyplana) on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 07:55 pm: Edit

SVC has said that adventure modules don't sell

Yes, but that was before ADB went to print-on-demand. Now that we can do that, everything's changed enough that it is worth discussing.

As for myself, I'm contacting people from my ancient past to see if they still have a copy of LTGG (which I wrote in 1995-98 for PD1 but lost due to a hard drive crash).

By michael john campbell (Michaelcampbell) on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 09:02 pm: Edit

Well...one could consider putting Adventures in a GM's Guide. This would be helpful if the GM's Guide was cross indexed to the adventures such that examples are found in the adventures.

I'ld also like to say on planetary design, there's a handy thing to know.
Asumming the planet has the same dencity as another planet (say the earth) then the gravity on the surface is determined by the diamter. So a planet that's 80% the size (Diameter) of the earth would have a surface gravity of 0.8g at the surface.

This is because of the two equations involved. The volume of the planet and thus it's mass (if dencity is the same) as developed by (IIRC)

V = p 4/3 r3

and the force equation for gravity

F = G x (M1 x M2) / r2

will resolve themselves into a single equation that when simplified becomes

glocal = gEarth x rlocal / rEarth

.
It's a handy thing to know.

By Gary Plana (Garyplana) on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 11:09 pm: Edit

MJC, if you go to the SJ Games website, there is a perfectly good Excel spreadsheet which will help generate an entire solar system -- star, planets, moons, the whole thing.

It's called solconst, IIRC.

No math. Math is evil. Excel is good.

By Gary Plana (Garyplana) on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 09:28 am: Edit

So there's no interest? This idea died a quick death.

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 10:30 am: Edit

What do you mean Gary? Because of no post for a bit?

If that were the case I think GPD in general is in trouble because there isn't many post in the PD section at all.

I'm very interested but I'm also working on other stuff.