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Timing of tractor auction in EA

 
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jpat
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Timing of tractor auction in EA Reply with quote

If there's a tractor auction in EA when one ship has tractored another, when does the auction take place? Specifically, does it take place before or after allocating the baseline speed? This seems important given that if my ship is caught in a tractor, I may choose to put tokens into an auction in EA or I may choose to try to move both our ships by putting tokens into a high(er) speed.
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TJolley
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno..neither 5D6a (Tractor auctions) nor 1E1 (Energy Allocation ) say..good question. We usually play it after setting baseline speed..but that's just how we do it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We do just the opposite. We resolve tractor auctions first and then the power left over can be allocated as needed.
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jpat
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scoutdad wrote:
We do just the opposite. We resolve tractor auctions first and then the power left over can be allocated as needed.


If it had come to that, that's probably what we would've done. I got tractored on impulse 8 and had no juice left to do anything about it then.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like an addition to rev 5 rulebook is in order after it is ruled on Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, going by the list in (1E1), and the wording of (1D2), I think that choosing your baseline speed comes before anything else in energy allocation.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mjwest wrote:
Well, going by the list in (1E1), and the wording of (1D2), I think that choosing your baseline speed comes before anything else in energy allocation.


"I think"? I expected better from you, sir. Razz

That's certainly a reasonable way to read it, but neither of those sections, unless I'm really missing something, has anything to say about tractor auctions. The best evidence is the use of "first" as in "First you must set your baseline speed" in (1D2).
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It can be argued that as the tractor is a carry-over from the previous turn, the tractor auction would take place before setting base-line speed as it would be superseding that step.

But again, we play it as set base-line speed in secret, then do the tractor auction.

Other folks do it the other way around.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, (1E1) does list tractor activity, specifically tractor continuation, so I just lump them all together.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mjwest wrote:
Well, going by the list in (1E1), and the wording of (1D2), I think that choosing your baseline speed comes before anything else in energy allocation.


The Player Reference Card list 'pay to continue Tractor Beams' as the last item in energy allocation.

We have always played it with the steps taking place in the order that they appear on the card (Baseline speed/Weapon loading/Shield regen/Tractors).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the Reference cards seems to be the most in-depth reference mateiral available.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinecone wrote:
And the Reference cards seems to be the most in-depth reference mateiral available.

Buy Romulan Border Folks Laughing


What do you mean by that? Was it sarcasm?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Romulan border has the Reference Cards.

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