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terryoc Captain
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:04 am Post subject: Orion Stealth With Cloak vs Seeking Weapons |
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Pinecone's post on cloaked orions just got me thinking - I know that the Orion stealth penalty vs direct fire weapons doesn't stack with a cloak. What about the "roll a die to see if you miss" effect vs seeking weapons? Seems to me that it shouldn't stack with a cloak either. AFAIK it isn't explicitly stated that it doesn't stack, which could lead to confusion. _________________ "Captain" Terry O'Carroll, fourteen papers published including six best of issue
"Man, Terry, you are like a loophole seeking missle!" - Mike West
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USS Enterprise Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 27 Feb 2009 Posts: 376 Location: Vulcan
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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You're right, it doesn't say, so maybe it does stack. I could live with it if it did due to the fact that Orions are normally weak, but maybe it was intended that there'd be no stack. _________________ "The good of the many outweighs the good of the few"
"Since my customary greeting would seem entirely self serving, I will simply say good luck."
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Kang Fleet Captain
Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 1976 Location: Devon, UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting point. I'd say that we keep the 'seeking weapons can miss' benefit, but that's just my opinion. There's no need to rebalance this any further.
Why should seeking weapons suddenly find it easier to hit a ship because it's cloaked? That's pretty counterintuitive! _________________
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USS Enterprise Lieutenant Commander
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Lol. _________________ "The good of the many outweighs the good of the few"
"Since my customary greeting would seem entirely self serving, I will simply say good luck."
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mjwest Commodore
Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 4075 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Well, all it says is that cloak and stealth are not cumulative. Since the drone '6' roll is part of stealth, it is lost when under cloak.
Unless, of course, you decide that 1/6 chance to miss is better than 50% of damage. Since you do have the choice ... _________________
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Kang Fleet Captain
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:16 am Post subject: |
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mjwest wrote: | Well, all it says is that cloak and stealth are not cumulative. Since the drone '6' roll is part of stealth, it is lost when under cloak.
Unless, of course, you decide that 1/6 chance to miss is better than 50% of damage. Since you do have the choice ... |
But it must be simple to merely clarify, like all the other rules clarifications, and say that cloak and the stealth bonus are not cumulative.
And if that was the case, then the 1/6 miss chance would be rolled for first, then if it hits it gets 50% damage. Simple. _________________
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terryoc Captain
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:51 am Post subject: |
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I think the fact that Orion stealth also offers a bonus vs seeking weapons was overlooked when the clarification was done.
And 50% reduction in warhead strength is definitely better than an average 16% reduction in damage. _________________ "Captain" Terry O'Carroll, fourteen papers published including six best of issue
"Man, Terry, you are like a loophole seeking missle!" - Mike West
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