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[Nerroth]

But in SFB, under (OFP1.22) you can do just that - underload a cheaper torp over the first two turns, then add in more power on the third turn (or if holding, on the turn you wanna fire it on) to upgrade the warhead.
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[DirkSJ]

[Nerroth]

Let's see, then:


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(2O3A2b) Upgrading: Like plasma torpedoes, implosion torpedo warheads in the tube and ready to launch can be upgraded at the instant of launch, or during the Energy Allocation Phase of a subsequent holding turn. This cannot exceed the strength of the firing tube.


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I guess since (4J2c) mentions bolting, which ITs can't do, it's just as well to add an explicit rule.

The above should be clear enough about lights, since you cannot exceed the strength of the tube.

Also, the SFB rules don't explicitly say whether or not you can down-fire a torp you've already loaded on the higher setting in the first two turns - or rather, that you haven't already gone over the warhead threshold with. So, I dunno if, for example, you can go 2+3 then add 1 to get an IT-M. I'd ask about it on the legacy BBS, but I might be better off waiting until after Origins to clear that up...
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[DirkSJ]

[Nerroth]

Text added - with a slight revision to the example:


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Example: A Trobrin command cruiser has been loading one of its heavy implosion torpedo launchers and one of its medium implosion torpedo launchers; both as medium torpedo warheads. On the first and second turn each launcher has 1 and 2 energy Points spent on it respectively. On turn 3 each must spend 3 Energy Points, to finish loading as type M implosion torpedo warheads. The Trobrin captain decides he (it?) would like to upgrade the warhead in the larger launcher to a heavy warhead. To do this, he must spend 2 extra Energy Points (totalling 5 this turn for that launcher) to account for the difference in total energy between a medium and a heavy warhead. However, his other medium torpedo warhead is in a medium torpedo launcher, at the maximum size the launcher permits, so cannot be further upgraded


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I started up a word doc with the various weapons and systems all in one place - and while doing so, re-arranged their orders:

[DirkSJ]

Seems like a lot of rules but it may be workable. That will be up to SVC. Worst case if it's too big then the Bolosco can be taken out. I know, I know you don't want to but...if its the difference between publishing it and not...

May as well shoot for the moon and ask for them to be included though.

[Nerroth]

True enough... time will tell.


(I suppose there are a number of ships one could plug the gap with, if necessary.)
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[DirkSJ]

[Steve Cole]

Remember that the FC version of an SFB rule needs to leave out as many fiddly exceptions, weird circumstances, and special cases as possible.
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[Nerroth]

Speaking of rule streamlining, would it be a major problem if the impulse delays between firing a weapon from one turn to the next went away?


For the example, from the current rules for Iridani FEBs:

[OGOPTIMUS]

The Seltorian Particle Cannon has a delay that lasts over turn breaks. It just fires twice a turn, in contrast.

EDIT: Rule (4P1b) "...can be fired twice a turn, but these firings must be at least 3 impulse apart. This delay extends over turn breaks; a given Particle Cannon fired on Impulse #8 of one turn could not be fired again until Impulse #3 of the next turn."
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[Nerroth]

I can understand with the PC, since it can fire twice in a turn.

That would be an issue when the Vari particle beams (which can also fire twice per turn) show up, but I wasn't sure if weapons that can only fire once per turn needed to have that kind of impulse delay brought over.
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[Barry Kirk]

The FEB hits harder than a disruptor, so the 16 impulse delay helps mitigate that a bit.

Just like the Koligahr Antimatter Cannon has a 32 impulse delay, which it should really retain otherwise it's almost a photon firing at a disruptor delay.
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[Nerroth]

Okay.


I've been going over a few things with Mike West, and wanted to put some of the things discussed here for consideration.


*I dropped the impulse delays for FEBs and others.


*A suggestion Mike had for the Iridani was to just stick with pre-set module allocations for each type of ship.

For the Caravel, Barque and Clipper, each would stick with Weapons modules in their lone mounts.

For the Galleon, one could assume the presence of a Weapons module and either a VIP or Command module. (I'm not sure which is better - the VIP module makes more sense in-universe for lone Quests, but the Command module would be more what a fleet commander might take.)

For the Brigantine, one option could be to give them one Weapons, one Command and one VIP module. (BGs are big enough to both make use of the command facilities, and to try and impress local dignitaries with the luxury suites.)

For the Man-O-War, I was thinking one Weapons, one VIP, one Command and one Hospital module. (THis would make the MW more of a multi-mission ship, perhaps able to use its modules' facilities to help support the rest of its fleet.)


If the above idea held water, the idea of running separate modules could be taken out and put into reserve, and the ships in question treated as they are on-table.


*I was thinking that one could have LDR-esque boxes to allow for the B-variants of certain ships - but on the other hand, perhaps these forward-firing variants could be useful as their own Cards elsewhere?

(Much as the SFB SSDs are free to download, perhaps the Bonnaventure variants could be a way to preview the Iridani fleet without taking away from the broadsiding dynamic of the standard ships of each class.)


*For the Bolosco, Mike suggested to stick with a cargo module (as an introduction at least) and use ships which can get by without the fun stuff.

Both the MD and MC are capable ships without the fancy pods, and both can take one large cargo pod - so that would be all you'd need to start off (using 5T if necessary, or ignoring the pods if not).

That way, the rules for better pods could be kept in reserve, to be wheeled out if needed when the time comes to fill out the rest of the Bolosco fleet.


*If the above changes were made, the number of rules on the list would be cut down somewhat.


*Indeed, I was just thinking; web was given only a cursory introduction (as snares) when KB was released.

If the full range of IWT functions were too much in one go, could a pared-down set of option for integrated warp tractors be enough to get by?

Say if you dropped the pressure wave and tractor punch. (The tractor crush is cooler, anyway.)
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