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pinecone Fleet Captain
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 1862 Location: Earth
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject: Next FC Products idea: Alliance Attack and Coalition Attack |
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Some of the products on the "possibilities list" right now are Kzinti and Gorn attack, to add more ships to the rosters of the western and eastern empires respectively. However, the Gorn and Kzintis both have enough ships, and Attack products like that would probably have the same number of Kzintis as Klingons. Certainly, there are more ships we need to get into the game, but not enough of any one empire to make that empire the basis for an attack, save the ISC. That is why I propose these products:
Alliance attack, filling out the missing ship classes for the Alliance races who need them, and Coalition Attack, doing the same for the Coalition. These would be a good place to put the CBs, but also the other "missing" ships (Gorn Medium Command Cruiser, Romulan KR and Vulture, Klingon LD5, Kzinti Destroyer, Lyran POL, ect.) Perhaps even a "Neutral Attack" with the PFFs, more Vudar, ISC, Orion, Seletorian, and Andro, although that would be a little far fetched. Ceratinly, we need an ISC attack or Andromeadan Attack to come first, but afterwards, I think this would be a fun product and have enough of the "core empires" to make it sell. What do you guys think? |
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jeffery smith Lieutenant SG
Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 197 Location: Bothell,WA
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:05 am Post subject: |
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Pinecone, I seem to remember that Svc said "Gorn Attack" is next but Mjwest pointed out the need for more ISC. Personnely i will purchase all the FedComm goodies that ADB can produce as fast as i can. While your idea sounds good i would like to see what Svc thinks is next. _________________ fun fun fun in the sun sun sun |
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Kang Fleet Captain
Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 1976 Location: Devon, UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:37 am Post subject: |
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jeffery smith wrote: | Personnely i will purchase all the FedComm goodies that ADB can produce as fast as i can. |
Me too, at least for the printed products.... _________________
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Steve Cole Site Admin
Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 3832
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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It would be wrong to say that Kzinti Attack would be mostly Kzintis. It would have two or three, but also Klingon, Lyran, Hydran, WYN. Maybe even Fed or Orion.
It would also be wrong to assume that Gorn Attack would be mostly Gorns. it would have Tholians, Romulans, and maybe Feds and Orions.
There is also the possible ISC Attack (or Andro Attack, or Alien Attack), which would also have Vudar and Andro.
There would not be a Coalition Attack or Alliance Attack. That's not how the ships are packed. _________________ The Guy Who Designed Fed Commander
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USS Enterprise Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 27 Feb 2009 Posts: 376 Location: Vulcan
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Steve Cole wrote: | It would be wrong to say that Kzinti Attack would be mostly Kzintis. It would have two or three, but also Klingon, Lyran, Hydran, WYN. Maybe even Fed or Orion.
It would also be wrong to assume that Gorn Attack would be mostly Gorns. it would have Tholians, Romulans, and maybe Feds and Orions.
There is also the possible ISC Attack (or Andro Attack, or Alien Attack), which would also have Vudar and Andro.
There would not be a Coalition Attack or Alliance Attack. That's not how the ships are packed. |
Why would you call it "Kzinti Attack" if the Kzinti aren't even the ships of majority? _________________ "The good of the many outweighs the good of the few"
"Since my customary greeting would seem entirely self serving, I will simply say good luck."
"Live long and Prosper." |
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mjwest Commodore
Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 4075 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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USS Enterprise wrote: | Why would you call it "Kzinti Attack" if the Kzinti aren't even the ships of majority? |
To give it a name and give it scope. And this has always been true. Klingon Attack had way more than Klingons, and I don't think they had the most ships.
And by "scope" I mean what will be included. So, in a Kzinti Attack any Feds would likely not include, say, the FFL or NAL, but those two ships would likely end up in a Gorn or ISC Attack.
But this is all "pie in the sky" right now, anyway. First Steve is gonna have to figure out if another Attack module can be done at all, much less which one and what it will include. _________________
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USS Enterprise Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 27 Feb 2009 Posts: 376 Location: Vulcan
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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mjwest wrote: | USS Enterprise wrote: | Why would you call it "Kzinti Attack" if the Kzinti aren't even the ships of majority? |
To give it a name and give it scope. And this has always been true. Klingon Attack had way more than Klingons, and I don't think they had the most ships.
And by "scope" I mean what will be included. So, in a Kzinti Attack any Feds would likely not include, say, the FFL or NAL, but those two ships would likely end up in a Gorn or ISC Attack.
But this is all "pie in the sky" right now, anyway. First Steve is gonna have to figure out if another Attack module can be done at all, much less which one and what it will include. |
Well, I presently own Romulan Space and attack, and Klingon Border. I don't have Klingon attack yet and, as such, don't have a clue what's in it.
However, the Klingons still would have more than anyone else, correct? _________________ "The good of the many outweighs the good of the few"
"Since my customary greeting would seem entirely self serving, I will simply say good luck."
"Live long and Prosper." |
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OGOPTIMUS Captain
Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 980
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Actually, they don't have more than anyone else.
You can see what's in the product on the starfleet store webpage:
Fed BCJ, Police
Klingon D5, D5W, E4
Kzinti NCA, DN, BCH, CL, CM, DW
Tholian DD
Orion LR and Salvage Cruiser
Free Trader. _________________ O.G. OPTIMUS
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ericphillips Commander
Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 702 Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA, Sol, Gould Belt, Orion Arm, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Universe Beta
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:33 am Post subject: |
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I am looking forward to Gorn attack. I have noticed a lack of Gorn ships in a few pint ranged. Heck, there isn't even a Gorn ship good gor a 150 point duel. The jump is fromt he 130s to the 160s. Gorn have been given the short shrift.
Mike, while I agree that the ISC might need expansion, the Gorn have been a part of FC since the beginning, not a recent add on. |
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mjwest Commodore
Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 4075 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:08 am Post subject: |
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ericphillips wrote: | I am looking forward to Gorn attack. |
Again, there is no guarantee there will ever be another Attack module. Steve will need to make that determination next year.
Also, to be totally honest, I doubt the Gorns would get any more or any fewer ships whether the name of the hypothetical module is Gorn Attack or ISC Attack. Regardless of the name, I would expect the ship distribution to be nearly identical. _________________
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jmt Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 394 Location: Plano, TX
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe, instead of an Attack product, there is a new product:
Federation Commander: Reinforcements
It would be similar to the attack products, but contain 5-6 ships from each empire with a single map board for stability. Something like;
- Federation Commander: Klingon Reinforcements (including 5 ships for Federation, Klingon, and Kzinti)
- Federation Commander: Romulan Reinforcements (including 5 ships for Federation, Romulan, and Gorn)
Other Reinforcement packs would add Lyrans, Hydrans, Vudar, ISC, Tholian, and Seltorians.
With an eye toward e23, each pack of 5 ships could be available as individual PDF downloads. _________________ jmt
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ericphillips Commander
Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 702 Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA, Sol, Gould Belt, Orion Arm, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Universe Beta
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Mike, please don't get caught on the GornAttack thing. Callit whatever. My point was the ISC have been in FC for six months, Gorn for years. The gorn need more ships and deserve them first. |
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USS Enterprise Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 27 Feb 2009 Posts: 376 Location: Vulcan
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Don't like the single board idea since them map (Usually) floats.
Also, interesting about Klingon Attack, I do wonder why it wasn't just called Kzinti Attack. _________________ "The good of the many outweighs the good of the few"
"Since my customary greeting would seem entirely self serving, I will simply say good luck."
"Live long and Prosper." |
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jmt Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 394 Location: Plano, TX
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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USS Enterprise wrote: | Don't like the single board idea since them map (Usually) floats. |
The single board is just to give the packaging some rigidity - same as was done in Hydran Attack. _________________ jmt
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JimDauphinais Commander
Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 769 Location: Chesterfield, MO
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:50 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Also, interesting about Klingon Attack, I do wonder why it wasn't just called Kzinti Attack. |
I suspect it was about marketing. Klingon Attack better indicates that it is basically an expansion for Klingon Border (although it can be played with just Academy or Romulan Border). Also, the Klingons have better name recognition for those new to the SFU. _________________ Jim Dauphinais, Chesterfield, MO
St. Louis Area Fed Comm Group: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/STL_Federation_Commander/ |
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