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IKerensky · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:50 am Post subject: Weapons on kzinti fighters

Hello,

I noticed there is a Kzinti Carrier ship card in communique 39, but there is no information on the weapons of their fighters. Anyone know what they are equiped with ?

Regards,

Nath.

mjwest · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:12 pm Post subject:

Use the Klingon fighters.

Yes, the Kzinti actually have their own fighters. However, for the purposes here and the purposes of playtest, just use the Klingon fighters. (Either they Z-Y for drones or the Z-D for disruptors.)
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IKerensky · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:33 pm Post subject:

Thanks

From a historical point of view, what were the weaponary on the kzintis one ? I supposed they were given Phaser-G because of the hydran technical help.

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No, the Kzintis never had phaser-Gs, except in their wildest dreams.
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mjwest · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject:

From an historical point of view, the Kzintis used the same weapons as the Klingons: Ph-3s and drones, with the extremely rare exceptions of disruptors and Ph-2s.

Seriously, the Kzinti TADS and Kzinti Z-Y (the most common and prevalent late-war fighters for both sides) were nearly (if not actually) identical in their performance characteristics. If FC, they will be identical (in their performance).

The only empires that ever used Ph-Gs were the Hydrans (on everything) and the Federation (on a very few, very rare things). No one else ever made workable (much less production) copies.
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IKerensky · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:45 pm Post subject:

Well, I was under that impression because the info I read about the 4 power war tell that it was the Hydrans that help Kzintis develop fighter technology, so I assumed they were based on the Hydrans fighter.

mjwest · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject:

gambler1650 · Lieutenant JG Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Posts: 71

A bit of historical and fighter background, which might be wrong in some of the details.

The Hydrans and Kzintis didn't really 'interact'. They were co-belligerants because they both were traditionally enemies of the Klingons and Lyrans. However, the Hydrans were separated from the Kzintis and Federation because the Lyrans, Klingons (and Tholians) were between the Hydrans and the Federation/Kzintis.

The Hydrans developed the first fighters in Y135 or so, and these were deployed on many ships of many different sizes, but generally the Hydrans didn't have any true carriers for quite awhile.

The Kzintis were the first empire to use true carriers (I believe) and developed their fighters primarily as a way to get more drones in space in a battle. Because of the positions of the two empires, the Hydrans and Kzintis never really directly interacted except late in the General War (Y178+), well after the development of fighters and carriers for most races.

The Hydrans provided gatling technology to:

The Federation and the Lyran Democratic Republic, but never to the Kzintis and no Kzinti ship or fighter (or for that matter, any other empire's ship or fighter - excepting of course the Orions) carried a Gatling phaser.

Dan Ibekwe · Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject:

I'd expect that the Hydrans and the Kzinti were able to communicate (at a steep price) by using Orion middlemen.
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terryoc · Captain Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1384

They could send missions down the Neutral Zones, they don't need pirates to do it for them.
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Dan Ibekwe · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:06 am Post subject:

Good point, well made.

I kicked around with a 'Malta convoy' type scenario a while back, with Kzinti and/or Hydran convoys running the gauntlet through the Neutral Zone.

I thought it might work better in the post-ISC period when the Neutral Zones were wider. But...why the heck not?
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Blammo · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:18 am Post subject:

Wouldn't an armed (or unarmed) mission up/down the neutral zone between (assuming) the Klingon and Lyran border potentially provoke a response from one of those two powers (pre or concurrent with the General War)? Might make an interesting scenario Smile

Dal Downing · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:14 am Post subject:

Just to let you know your not completely crazy with this ideal...

...In the year 2580, as the General War was reaching new heights of savagery, the Orion Shipyard in the WYN Cluster desperately needed a shipment of special high technology equipment to complete the construction of several new ships. The shipment had to be brought all the way from Federation territory: four previous convoys had been trapped and destroyed.

Finally, the Orions and WYNs turned to a renegade Lyran, who was known as "Red Fur" because of his unusual rust-colored pelt. Red Fur agreed to deliver the shipment in exchange for a brand new Battle Raider to replace his aging Raider...

This is Mini-Campaign T6.0 from Module C1 it consist of 4 to 6 scenarios and victory is determined by number of Cargo Boxes Red Fur gets to the Cluster.
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