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kirbykibble Lieutenant JG
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:37 am Post subject: Names of races? |
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i have realized that many of the races in FC are closely related to constellations.
for example, there is a Lyra constellation (Lyran)
Hydra constellation (Hydran)
Andromeda constellation (andromedan)
Orion Constellation (Orion)
And others.
Were they named this because they were located in the constellation> or was it just for other reasons?
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Mike Fleet Captain
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:41 am Post subject: |
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I think you discovered the secret... _________________ Mike
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kinshi Lieutenant JG
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:05 am Post subject: |
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I don't spose the 'WYN' star cluster is not actually the NGC-253 super-star cluster observed by astronomer Dr. Garret Wynn-Williams ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) _________________ If you are local to the Kitsap, Jefferson, Peirce, Thurston or Mason County area in Western, WA state, feel free to PM me about getting a SFB/FC group going. |
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kirbykibble Lieutenant JG
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:07 am Post subject: |
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geez.. _________________ We are the ISC! NO ONE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IT STANDS FOR!! |
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kinshi Lieutenant JG
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:10 am Post subject: |
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kirbykibble wrote: | geez.. |
ok I confess I google'ed that not something I would have committed t memory LOL _________________ If you are local to the Kitsap, Jefferson, Peirce, Thurston or Mason County area in Western, WA state, feel free to PM me about getting a SFB/FC group going. |
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kirbykibble Lieutenant JG
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:23 am Post subject: |
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can someone please give me an answer???? _________________ We are the ISC! NO ONE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IT STANDS FOR!! |
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Carthaginian Lieutenant SG
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:37 am Post subject: |
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kirbykibble wrote: | can someone please give me an answer???? |
I think everyone is kinda hinting you are possibly correct in a way. ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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kirbykibble Lieutenant JG
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:46 am Post subject: |
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okay
geez... just a question..... _________________ We are the ISC! NO ONE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IT STANDS FOR!! |
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Jean Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:29 am Post subject: |
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The only person who can answer that question with any degree of authority is SVC and he is at home, resting from Origins which was a minimum of 13-hour days (and frequently 15 hours). He'd also just put in about three weeks with a minimum of 12-hour days, excepting Sunday where he put in five-hour days. Please allow him time to respond. _________________ Business Manager/RPG Line Editor
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Steve Cole Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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There is no relation between constellations and empires.
empires are NOT in the direction of a constellation except by dumb luck or accident.
Andromedans are from the Andromeda Galaxy. The Andromeda Galaxy is named such because it's in the constellatiion of Andromedan. We didn't name the constellation or the galaxy.
Hydran is not named for a constellation, neither is Lyran.
WYN was originally intended by Mike Thompson to mean "wealthy neighborhood" and nothing more.
Orion is a random astro-word that Star Trek assigned to the pirates. I doubt they were linking it to a constellation.
If there are other empires with the same names as constellations (I am not aware of any) then it's just happenstance. _________________ The Guy Who Designed Fed Commander
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kinshi Lieutenant JG
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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OK I can buy that..you are the designer after all, only you know what was in your head at the time of the race naming, as such are THE definitive source.
Though as far as the WYN go..that is a bit of 'astronomically' high amount of coincidence that the WYN star cluster as described can be correlated to an actual star cluster with similar properties which was observed by a guy name Wynn.
That's "go buy a lottery ticket" sort of dumb luck.
and yea, its true, the Lyra and Hydra constellations do NOT line up at all with the Lyran or Hydran spaces in the game (in face the primary star of Lyra (Vega) is right in the middle of core Federation space).
Orion, however, is right where it belongs (of course the original Franz Joseph map of the galaxy in the Star Fleet Technical Manual is based on the real deal.)
Still, having no less than 5 races who happen to share a name with the constellations in a starship combat game is also pretty unique as far as coincidence goes. A couple are coincidence, 5 is a streak but I imagine its hard to be in this genre and NOT be influenced by cosmology, even unconsciously. _________________ If you are local to the Kitsap, Jefferson, Peirce, Thurston or Mason County area in Western, WA state, feel free to PM me about getting a SFB/FC group going. |
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pinecone Fleet Captain
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Didn't all of this come from some mysterious air force tapes in the first place? Who knows what the intentions of the prankster who recorded those tapes were?
Oh, wait... NO! I've said too much... |
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semperatis Lieutenant Commander
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:17 am Post subject: |
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I wonder if Isis had a paw in it too. _________________ Federal Republic of Aurora fleet builder.
Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes.
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terryoc Captain
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:21 am Post subject: |
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I think the Hydrans are called that because they look like fire hydrants. Dirty, rotten, low-down, methane-breathing fire hydrants. _________________ "Captain" Terry O'Carroll, fourteen papers published including six best of issue
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Steve Cole Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Nope, the WYN cluster had zero relationship and zero connection to anyone named Wynn.
Orions are just an astro name that Paramount used and someone (I don't think it was Franz Joseph, probably me) decided to put where the "Orion Arm" is.
Hydran and Lyran are just astro names.
There simply is no "streak" here. You'd do better finding random names of fighter aces in WW2 compared to random streets named for unrelated people in Philadelphia. Or Dayton. _________________ The Guy Who Designed Fed Commander
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