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Scoutdad Commodore
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Will, I have relatives that are someties called Georjins... is that anything like a gaijin? ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) _________________ Commander, Battlegroup Murfreesboro
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djdood Commodore
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Not exactly, but put them in Japan and they would likely qualify as gaijin (depending on who is noticing and commenting). _________________
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Scoutdad Commodore
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Oh yeah, I can see my relatives in Japan.
"Hey Y'all, where's the nearest McDonald's, can you get a license to hunt those little black and white bears (and do you have a good recipe for them?), and if Y'all don't have NASCAR - what do you do fer fun on Sundays? _________________ Commander, Battlegroup Murfreesboro
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OGOPTIMUS Captain
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:08 am Post subject: |
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OK. Not to stop the conversation, but I did find the answer to the original query of this topic.
However, in rereading ADB's web policy, I'm not sure I can post it here.
I am sure that I can say it's in CL16.
Can I get clarification from Mike West or SVC regarding posting part or all of it here? I'm guessing no, but I'll ask anyway.
If not, then could it possibly be posted on the main website. I'd be willing to type it up and submit it, if necessary. _________________ O.G. OPTIMUS
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Mazza Lieutenant SG
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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CL16 isn't available from the ADB store or from the Australian mail order company I usually buy from.
Hopefully ADB will let you post the information. |
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mjwest Commodore
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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I believe the information is also in Prime Directive, but I could be wrong. (In other words, I think I saw it, but am too lazy, err busy, to check.)
I was going to give an answer to the posting question, but decided it would be better to kick it up first.
I will post again when I get a response ... _________________
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mjwest Commodore
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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OGOPTIMUS wrote: | OK. Not to stop the conversation, but I did find the answer to the original query of this topic.
However, in rereading ADB's web policy, I'm not sure I can post it here. |
Go ahead and post it. Just posting the chart is perfectly fine. _________________
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OGOPTIMUS Captain
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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OK. I'm at work right now, but when I get home tonight, I'll put it up. _________________ O.G. OPTIMUS
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OGOPTIMUS Captain
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Here's the table. The original one includes the exact speed as well as the rounded Fiction speed. If you plot it up in Excel, you can figure out the function easily enough.
Sorry about the formatting.
SFB Warp Fiction
Speed Speed Speed
1 1.0000 1.00
2 1.2599 1.20
3 1.4422 1.40
4 1.5874 1.60
5 1.7099 1.70
6 1.8171 1.80
7 1.9129 1.90
8 2.0000 2.00
9 2.0801 2.10
10 2.1544 2.15
11 2.2200 2.20
12 2.2894 2.30
13 2.3513 2.35
14 2.4101 2.40
15 2.4662 2.46
16 2.5198 2.50
17 2.5713 2.57
18 2.6207 2.60
19 2.6684 2.67
20 2.7144 2.70
21 2.7589 2.76
22 2.8020 2.80
23 2.8439 2.85
24 2.8845 2.88
25 2.9240 2.92
26 2.9626 2.96
27 3.0000 3.00
28 3.0366 3.04
29 3.0723 3.07
30 3.1072 3.10
31 3.1414 3.14
32 3.1748 3.20
64 4.0000 4.00
125 5.0000 5.00
216 6.0000 6.00
343 7.0000 7.00
512 8.0000 8.00
729 9.0000 9.00 _________________ O.G. OPTIMUS
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Mazza Lieutenant SG
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Thanks very much for posting the table.
The table in Prime Directive, and I've now rechecked both my GURPS and d20 books, is not the table which OGOPTIMUS just posted, but rather a table showing how many parsecs different classes of ships can move it, moving different speeds. |
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Sweeper Lieutenant SG
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:55 am Post subject: |
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I prefer the term "Gaming Geek" myself. _________________ I'm wise enough to know that I don't know half as much as I think I know, you know? |
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Mike Fleet Captain
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Maybe I have old information, but I thought that the TNG+ warp factors were changed by Okuda. My understanding was that warp 10 was theoretically impossible...the wall you can closer to, but can never touch. In SFB (and TOS), warp 10 starts being 1000x c. _________________ Mike
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Rindis Lieutenant JG
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly right. Just remember that all of this is based off of TOS (which ADB has a license for), not TNG (which they don't, and can't get), and originally, speed equaled warp factor cubed times the speed of light (what was given above).
The original impetus for the change came from Gene Roddenberry deciding while developing the new series that it would be best to avoid all piling up of ever-higher warp factors that happened in some episodes of the original series, and mandated a 'warp 10 maximum', with no further info on why it was the maximum (engineering, like the sound barrier, or theoretical, like the speed of light).
FASA's ST RPG declared that warp factors in the TNG era were warp factor to the fifth power times the speed of light. Which gave really bad answers. (A friend of mine pointed out that on that scale the Enterprise-D could cross the galaxy in about 6 months).
Later, Okuda developed the new formula (with infinite warp 10) shown in the Tech Manual while he was developing out the background.
To complicate matters, the SFU now has differing scales of warp speed (of its own invention) that help explain how the strategic speeds seen in Federation and Empire work. Those should be discussed in Prime Directive. |
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