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PallidaMors
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Palli, Got a question that was brought up at our last game, with Code of War. If a Admiral goes into battle, can he still extend his CR to another battle?


Hello Asguard, good question the answer is no and Yes, while the fleet under the Admiral may be more than his CR, the Admiral can only bring in the ships that is eqaul to or less than his/her CR. if there is another battle happening on the same border using ships in the same fleet then you would use the squadron rules if the Admiral was at the Cr limit.

Example lets use the federtaion:

there is a federtaion fleet that has been created and positioned on the Klingon Border, the fleet consists of an Admiral and 10 ships total. the Fedeartion decides to attack the klingons, the federtaion player decides to attack in one location with the Admiral and 6 ships, in this case the admiral is maxed out with the Cr and as such cannot extedn the CR to any other units that could potentially attack. in stead you could attack using the squadron rules and form the remaining 4 ships into a commodores squadron (providing you have a ship with a flag bridge) or a regular squadron of 3 ships, or you could use 2 groups of 2 or 4 separate ships in 4 separate attacks..the one catch is that all these other attacks take 2 command tokens each to initiate. (see COW rules command token costs)

or if you wanted to use the admirals cr in other battles (as per your question above) you can do the following, the same admiral from above, attacks with 3 ships of the 10 ships in the fleet, into a system. 3 other ships attack in 3 separate locations along the Klingon frontier, this can be done as long as the total CR for the Admiral is not exceeded. and the whole offensive only takes the 2 command tokens, but the admiral only gains VP for the battle that the Admiral participated in. This allows for a lofty strategic platform for use with admirals and thier relative CR, and shows the enhanced effficiencies that a regular fleet offers over separate squadrons in terms of organizational cost. I do beleive it is a master rule for the campaign as it addreses so many needs and as Pinkfluffy pointed out form thier titanic game this last weekedns allows for large fleets but only parts of that fleet are brought to bear. The Talent of the Admiral is what dictates how many ships can serve in any single (or multiple) engagements.

I hope this explians it.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PallidaMors wrote:
asguard101 wrote:
Palli, Got a question that was brought up at our last game, with Code of War. If a Admiral goes into battle, can he still extend his CR to another battle?


Hello Asguard, good question the answer is no and Yes, while the fleet under the Admiral may be more than his CR, the Admiral can only bring in the ships that is eqaul to or less than his/her CR. if there is another battle happening on the same border using ships in the same fleet then you would use the squadron rules if the Admiral was at the Cr limit.

Example lets use the federtaion:

there is a federtaion fleet that has been created and positioned on the Klingon Border, the fleet consists of an Admiral and 10 ships total. the Fedeartion decides to attack the klingons, the federtaion player decides to attack in one location with the Admiral and 6 ships, in this case the admiral is maxed out with the Cr and as such cannot extedn the CR to any other units that could potentially attack. in stead you could attack using the squadron rules and form the remaining 4 ships into a commodores squadron (providing you have a ship with a flag bridge) or a regular squadron of 3 ships, or you could use 2 groups of 2 or 4 separate ships in 4 separate attacks..the one catch is that all these other attacks take 2 command tokens each to initiate. (see COW rules command token costs)

or if you wanted to use the admirals cr in other battles (as per your question above) you can do the following, the same admiral from above, attacks with 3 ships of the 10 ships in the fleet, into a system. 3 other ships attack in 3 separate locations along the Klingon frontier, this can be done as long as the total CR for the Admiral is not exceeded. and the whole offensive only takes the 2 command tokens, but the admiral only gains VP for the battle that the Admiral participated in. This allows for a lofty strategic platform for use with admirals and thier relative CR, and shows the enhanced effficiencies that a regular fleet offers over separate squadrons in terms of organizational cost. I do beleive it is a master rule for the campaign as it addreses so many needs and as Pinkfluffy pointed out form thier titanic game this last weekedns allows for large fleets but only parts of that fleet are brought to bear. The Talent of the Admiral is what dictates how many ships can serve in any single (or multiple) engagements.

I hope this explians it.

PM


I really like this approach, I think you have given your campaign a smart game engine that can stand on it's own, well done, we really have enjoyed it and continue too.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chancellor K'reng was sitting in his high back, ornately carved solid wood chair...scrolling through a report in his hand. Two huge bodyguards stood one to each side of his chair. The other six members of the High Council sat in chairs arranged in a semi-circle, with the Chancellor in the middle of the arc. Each council member had a single bodyguard stationed next to his chair out-side to the middle. Servants moved in and out of the large room and to each side two small galleries for observers were packed to standing room only. The murmur of low level conversation died when the defense fleet officers came into the council chambers.

“So,” Chancellor K'reng shifted in his seat as he looked at the array of captains and Admiral Kr'toth standing before him, “I have read your after-action battle report Admiral. The E4 frigates, Hak'karl and K'neb were crippled and, you believe, captured. Your fleet crippled one war eagle and destroyed another. The C5 Tor'stag, D5 Gr'oth, and E4 M'jab left the field of battle unharmed, along with the Lyran war destroyer. I understand you were not able to bring in reinforcements because the 2 frigates were not destroyed.”

Admiral Kr'toth nodded his head. “That is correct, sir.”

K'reng looked back down at the report. “We will need to look into new protocols for reserves.” To himself he mumbled, “These damnable safety protocols which make self-destruction impossible unless the crew is off the ship are ridiculous.” Louder, “The loss of the frigates is acceptable. They were weak toDSaH off the first frigate line at Praxis station shipyard. The line is being been retooled. The remaining frigate M'jab is at least a better specimen, worth saving, from that line. With the destruction of the C10 M'kita and death of Admiral Kang, in the failed attempt to take out the Federation starbase, the Tor'stag is now the flagship of the home fleet. We also lost the C7 Klothos, D6 Y'kir, and E4 K'lode in that attack, as well as the D5 Klathas and FD7 Ki'tang from the reserve fleet when the Tholians attacked. We still have the D5 E'elst as part of the fleet and the FD7 Ch'tang will remain on exploration duty.” Murmuring in the chambers had resumed as the news of these losses and the implications were discussed.

Admiral Kr'toth saluted, “I will make any who cross our borders pay with blood!”

K'reng looked up from his report at Kr'toth. “And how were you planning on doing that Admiral? Should we build more frigates for you to throw at the enemy while you turn tail and run?”

Dead silence.

Admiral Kr'toth's face turned purple with fury, his hand going to the d'k tahg at his side, “You dare insult my honor?!?”

Ignoring Kr'toth, the Chancellor turned to one of the captains. “Captain T'ilk. I have reviewed your service record and your record of battle with the Romulans. You did not hesitate when commanded to perform nothing less than a suicide run. I promote you to Admiral and give you command of the fleet with the Tor'stag as your flagship.” The female captain saluted with a grim smile on her face.

Turning back to Kr'toth, “You are reduced in rank to captain and a position has just opened up on a frigate.”

Kr'toth sputtered, “I SAVED the bulk of our fleet. We were out-matched and out-gunned. You were expecting me to go in with all disruptors firing and die just like that petaQ Kang?!”

K'reng sighed, “The fact that you didn't let any other ships be destroyed is the only reason I demoted you instead of executing you. And no captain, I expect an admiral to access a situation properly and act accordingly.” Looking back down at the report, “By all accounts you should NOT have taken the fleet into Lyran space after the loss of half our fleet. If you really wanted to teach the Romulans a lesson you could've ordered the frigates to withdraw and had the Lyran reinforcements come in. The captains of those frigates acted with honor. The same cannot be said of you.”

The Chancellor heard the double click of the wing-blades of Kr'toths d'k tahg snapping open as he drew the dagger and pushed the spring-loaded button. He looked up to see Kr'toth take two steps towards him and a blur of motion that stopped him in his tracks. Kr'toth fell forward with Admiral T'ilk's d'k tahg buried horizontally to its hilt, wing-blades still retracted, in the back of his neck, severing his spinal cord. “Ah, my mistake. There is still an opening for a frigate captain.”

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great stuff.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

woo hoo! 60,000 views!! long live the campaign.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:19 pm    Post subject: Introduction Speech Reply with quote

Dear Guests, Comrades, and Friends:
We are most happy and overjoyed to be with you at this jubilant gathering to celebrate the founding of the Lyran Democratic Republic amidst our great revolution. On behalf of the Chairman, the Democratic Party of H’van, and the Lyran Democratic Republic, I would like to extend our warm greetings to the broad masses of our workers, soldiers, teachers, students, revolutionary Guards, revolutionary cadres, representatives of all the revolutionary people of our new nation, and to the representatives and compatriots of our brothers in space, to express our warm welcome and thanks to our friends from the motherland!

Our great revolution was initiated and has been led by the great leader of our people himself. Our Chairman has raised the question after summing up the historical experience of the dictatorship of the proletariat and the class struggle both at home and abroad. The historical experience of the dictatorship of the proletariat teaches us that without a cultural revolution, the dictatorship cannot be consolidated and that to consolidate this dictatorship, it is imperative energetically to foster an ideology that eradicates bourgeois ideology, to thoroughly dig out the ideological roots of revisionism, and firmly implant the thought of the greater good.

Our great revolution has manifested infinitely great power. It has defeated the arrogance of the reactionary bourgeoisie and is cleaning up all the rubbish left over by the old society; it has broken old ideas, customs, and habits of the exploiting classes, fostered new ideas, culture, customs, and habits and vigorously promoted the transformation of people’s minds. A high tide of enthusiastic study of our Chairman’s works is now rising throughout the Democratic Republic. Over 700 million people have taken on an entirely new mental complexion.

Our great revolution and the socialist education movement in the cities and in rural areas have given a powerful impetus to our socialist construction. Our industries have witnessed tremendous developments both in output and in quality. In agriculture, bumper harvests have been reaped in succession. The level of science and technology have been vastly raised. The strength of our national defense is steadily growing. We are now in the first year of our Five-Year Plan. Industrial and agricultural production targets are expected to be over fulfilled. A situation of a new all-round leap forward is emerging for the greater good!

Every success achieved by our people in the mental or material realm is a great victory of our Chairman’s thought. Comrade Meow is the greatest leader of our era. Our people are exceedingly happy and honored to have such a great leader. We are deeply convinced that so long as we hold high the great banner of Meow’s thought and hand it on from generation to generation, we shall certainly succeed in building our great new motherland and in making it an impregnable state that will never change color.

Our great revolution is acclaimed and warmly praised by all socialist and revolutionary people of the universe and immensely fortifies their revolutionary fighting will and confidence in victory. The handful of imperialists, modern revisionists, and reactionaries in various countries are hurling vicious abuse at us precisely because our great revolution has dug out the roots of their subversive activities and attempts at “peaceful evolution”. Their abuse only proves that we have done the right thing and serves further to expose their reactionary features, their hostility towards our people and the cause of the greater good.

Our great revolution is a new thing without precedent in history. We hope that our foreign friends will make use of their stay in the Lyran Democratic Republic to take a good look, and we welcome their valuable comments, which will be helpful to our great revolution.

Comrades and friends! The present international situation is excellent and favorable to the revolutionary people. The days of imperialism and all reactionaries are numbered. The modern revisionists, too, are finding life increasingly difficult. The ranks of socialists are expanding steadily. The revolutionary movements of the people of the universe are surging vigorously forward. Under their new leadership, the Vudar are marching from victory to victory in their war of resistance against aggression and for national salvation. In collusion, imperialism is at the end of its tether. All the intrigues of imperialism and modern revisionism are doomed to failure.

Armed with the great thought of Chairman Meow, our people are determined, no matter what the price and sacrifice, to firmly support the Vudar in fighting through to the end till the aggressors are driven out of the Vudar Enclave, firmly support the struggles of the people of the whole universe.

Our great revolution is of the most profound and far-reaching significance for ensuring adherence to proletarian internationalism.

We must unite with all the people of the universe opposing imperialism and colonialism and carry the struggle against imperialism through to the end!

Together with all revolutionary socialists in the universe, we must carry the struggle against modern revisionism through to the end and advance the revolutionary cause of the international socialists and the people of the universe!

Now may I propose a toast to the great unity of the people of the Lyran Democratic Republic, to the unity of the people of the whole universe, to the great progress of the cause of liberation of all the people, to the health of Chairman Meow, our great leader, great teacher, great supreme commander, and great helmsman, and to the health of all our compatriots and comrades present here!

Admiral Lur’in, Lyran Democratic Republic Defense Force
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good afternoon from Sunny Kingston where the Battleground is being cleared of asteroids, lost keys, odd socks and unfinished paperwork by hordes of whimpering slaves (me) in preparation for this evening's continuation of the Megabattle we started last Sunday.

We aim to get through one turn.

Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look forward to reading about it again.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it is 7 pm and the Battle Soup and Battle Pizza has been consumed. Players are assembling round the table and we're just waiting on the Klingon to work out where he is, who he is and why he's here. Could be a long night. Razz

T3 Imp1: Aaaaaand they're off! GRLs going 24 across the board, FKs going 24 apart from the Klingon Cruisers going at 16 and plussing. There a couple of crippled Fed Cruisers which can't manage this speed and are looking a tad worried.

The bulk of the KFs have turned left heading directly back to the planet and BS (and Shipyard - big strategic target). 9 Fed FFs turned right and are chasing the SPAs and SKA which are still running away from 60 or so drones. The GRLs mainly ran straight on, a few BHs and FFs wibbling round the edges.

There was no fire.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T3 Imp2: Speed is life....Almost everything plussed, apart from the cripples and the BBs. Large numbers of speed 32 ships.

AND A LAUNCHED PLASMA HIT! Ok, a crippled Fed CS for five points, but hey. Can't have everything.

KFs have ended the Impulse 9+/-2 from the planet and are turning left again as turn modes complete. Range between the fleets is also about 9+.

It's an Impulse of 9s: 9 Fed FFs are EMing round the right hand side of the GRL formation. The rest of the GRL fleet is swinging round the left of the GRL fleet. Ranges outside 8 and no-one is firing.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T3 Imp3 Everything that can is doing speed 24. The GRLs are moving north and the KFs are moving south. Effectively the fleets are passing at range 9+. What is going on? Are the GRLs controlling the range for bolts?

Mass rules dither about how soon you can come out of EM. Executive decision: You can't. (Well, not 'til in effect Offensive fire on Imp 5)

Two battles developing: #1: 9 EMing Fed FFs vs 2 Lyrans DWs, a BDD and the Lyran FFs (with at least some ESGs).

#2: The rest

No Fire
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds great as always. Thanks for the updates.

One of these days I'll get round to a huge battle like this...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T3 Imp4: The Lyrans are going for an ESG ram on the 9 Fed FFs, which are coming out of EM any moment. Going to be close.

Subpulse 4: the ESGs are going to get at least some hits....

Only 2 Lyran FFs got the ram in, but we are looking at 19 internals on one FF; 14 on another and 22 on a third. Making a small mess at the cost of not much fire. Fed error on timing with EM and ESGs.

That was fun Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Shauneroo. Glad the reports are giving some entertainment. I am receiving abuse about my substandard journalistic skills and poor grammar. Hell, the Sun or the Mail would be proud of it! Rolling Eyes

T3 Imp5 the other 8 Fed FFs have HETted in, looks like the Klingons (who have already HETted apart from the E4s) are following them in.

Stop press - the Klingon says his FH arcs mean he doesn't need to turn. Filthy looks from the Fed result in them turning anyway. Sigh. Operations with allies... the only thing worse is operations without allies... (with thanks to Mr Churchill).

Oh yes - Fire Dec last Imp: 6 R torps bubbled at the Klingon Base. Excuse me while this ex Rom finds some tissues Embarassed

This is now a definite Death Spiral. More tissues.... Embarassed

Speed 32 Battleships... Twisted Evil

Ranges at the end of the Imp will be about 2 to 6 depending on braking etc

I'm posting this now before the site wipes it and Fire Dec will be BIG.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bulk of the fleets are range 4 -6 from eachother. The Fire Dec is very difficult. That's what's taking the time, with all the thinking about ranges a me too bidding. Let alone what GRL big ship or combination of little ships they are aiming at.
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