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pneumonic81
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:46 pm    Post subject: Orion Option Mounts Reply with quote

So what exactly can go into an orion WPN mount?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5L1 has the complete rules and list.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Orion Option Mounts Reply with quote

pneumonic81 wrote:
So what exactly can go into an orion WPN mount?

(5L1)
Photon (FA)
Disruptor (FA)
Drone Rack (360 degree)
Fusion Beam (FA)
Hellbore (FA)
ESG (360 degree)
Phaser-1 (FA)
Phaser-G (FA)

There are other options listed for Pl-F's in wing mounts, ADD's in wing mounts, etc. - but they are in the same section of the rules.

Dang - DNordeen and I cross posted!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5L1 also states "or other weapons"

The vagueness of this statments leads me to beleive I can put all Plasma-Rs in my mounts if I want since a PL-R is "other weapons"

so I just need to calrify what "or other weapons" means exactly.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll have to search through all of the errata, but in SFB (and I'd hazard a guess that FC is similar), Orions can not use Pl-R, and can only use Pl-S if a single Pl-S is used in two adjacent option boxes.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scoutdad wrote:
I'll have to search through all of the errata, but in SFB (and I'd hazard a guess that FC is similar), Orions can not use Pl-R, and can only use Pl-S if a single Pl-S is used in two adjacent option boxes.

You're right, they can't use Pl-R, nor can they use Phaser-4's on their bases. And doesn't their Hellbore need two adjacent centreline boxes too? I vaguely remember seeing something about that.... I could easily be mistaken, though.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw the "other weapons" and didn't think anything of it Embarassed I haven't seen any errata on it, but hopefully Mike West will spell that out for us...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically, you have two types of option mounts: WPN boxes and DRN boxes.

A WPN box may be any of the following:
Ph-1, Ph-G, Photon, Disruptor, Drone, Pl-F, Pl-D, Hellbore, Fusion.

A DRN box may be:
Drone (duh!), Ph-1, Pl-F, Pl-D.

Weapons that cannot be used:
Pl-R, Pl-S, Pl-G, PPD, ESG, Web/Snare, WC, WB/SC, PC.

I expect to see this all made much clearer when Orion Pirates is published. I am hopeful that a means to allow the use of Pl-S, Pl-G, and PPD will be worked out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

....actually, was it the PPD that needed two centerline boxes, not the Hellbore? Perhaps that was it. The ramblings of a deranged old duffer Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The weapons that needed "adjacent centerline option mounts" are:
Pl-S, Pl-G, PPD, ESG.

Hellbores used only a center box, but could not be mounted in the wings.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mjwest wrote:
Weapons that cannot be used:
Pl-R, Pl-S, Pl-G, PPD, ESG, Web/Snare, WC, WB/SC, PC.


Mike - the ESG is stated as allowed in [5L1] in the main rulebook [Rev. 4]. Is this a change, then?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Mike (correct me if I'm wrong Mike) is referring to what *needed* two adjacent spaces, i.e. in SFB. Orion Attack should hopefully formalise the "two-space weapons" rules, but for now anything that is allowed by (5L1) only requires a single WPN space. This would mean that an ESG is "single-space" in FC unless this is altered in FCOA. Note that at the moment, there is no official provision for the Orion to carry any plasma larger than F-type launchers. Again, hopefully FCOA will include rules for larger plasma launchers, but if not then you can experiment with it as it was in SFB anyway.

Also on the subject of what you can have in option mounts, (5L1) makes a note of the LR in Klingon Attack having extra "options" about what it can mount in its "DRN"/wing option mounts:

Plasma F (LP or RP)
Phaser 1 or G (LS or RS)
Anti-drone (360)
Disruptor (limited to range 15, both mounts FA o*r* one LF+L and the other RF+R)
Photons or fusion beams with the same arc options as disruptors
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When FC: OA is released, (5L) is expanded into a 2-page section with a chart listing every ship, every option mount on that ship, and what can be placed in said option mount.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That'll be pretty useful. It will be nice to have a "ready reference" type thing that will quickly tell you what you can and can't have on your ship.
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