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ericphillips Commander
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 1:25 pm Post subject: Tugs |
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Have there been any releases for Tugs and Battletugs for FC? |
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mjwest Commodore
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Recent Communiques have the Fed Tug and a couple LTTs. One of the most recent Captain's Logs (I forget which) has four LTTs, too.
No battletugs. There is currently some serious doubt as to whether battletugs will make it into FC. Right now, tugs (and LTTs) just carry cargo pods.
[Edit: Also, this is not a rules question. I have moved it to General.] _________________
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Steve Cole Site Admin
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Correct. FC tugs/LTTs are cargo only. No battletugs in FC. EVER. _________________ The Guy Who Designed Fed Commander
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Steve Cole Site Admin
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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(Moves battletug card back a few issues of Comm schedule so people can forget I said that.) _________________ The Guy Who Designed Fed Commander
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Ravenhull Lieutenant Commander
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Steve Cole wrote: | (Moves battletug card back a few issues of Comm schedule so people can forget I said that.) |
If anything comes up that contradicts your statements, we will simply assume that the board software mangled your original posts and that current realities were what you really meant. ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ NOLI UMQUAM VIM TURBARUM STULTORUM DEPRETIARE.
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Mike Fleet Captain
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Battletug in FC! Oh, boy! Now we'll get to play the famous Fed-Gorn battle that almost happened! |
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pinecone Fleet Captain
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:42 am Post subject: |
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Well, BoM isn't technically FC, right. So that ups the chance even more ! |
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jeffery smith Lieutenant SG
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 5:03 am Post subject: tugs |
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no battletugs (please ) but for those who want them enjoy what may come. as for SVC's comment that must have been the anti-SVC. _________________ fun fun fun in the sun sun sun |
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Starfury Lieutenant Commander
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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The reason there won't be battletugs is because there will be carrier tugs instead.
For all the races. |
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jeffery smith Lieutenant SG
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: tugs |
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personnelly this is one of thoses things from SFB that always bugged me. if battletugs or carriertugs or any other combat version of a tug is equal to or much better than the true warship then why spend the funds for carriers and battleships or cruisers when tugs would be just as good at a cheaper price. tugs are tugs ,they are not for combat which is why i have been against there inclusion. that said i have no objection to them in Communique or BoM. _________________ fun fun fun in the sun sun sun |
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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So can I hope to see the B10T super-heavy tug with battle pods? ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) _________________ "Captain" Terry O'Carroll, fourteen papers published including six best of issue
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Mike Fleet Captain
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:26 am Post subject: |
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Two points about battle tugs.
1. I thought they pre-dated any dreadnoughts in SFB (at least, the early Commander's Edition that I used).
2. They were not supposed to be permanent ships on duty. The battle pod(s) were kept at some starbases in mothballs only to be hard-attached to a tug when an admiral needed a ship with those heavy weapons in a fleet he was commanding. Even then, the attachment process would have to take awhile to complete.
This is why I have problems with Federation Commander's theme of "no history." Some things are just easier to explain with some history behind them.
Perhaps BoM? |
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Dal Downing Commander
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Like Mike said. From everything I have been able to gather on Battle Pods and Carrier Pods they are not intended to make a Tug the equal of a Dreadnaught or a Heavy Carrier. They are intended to be used when things go really really bad. Like when the Klingons wreck one of your CVAs and then your accidentally drop another one in to the atmosphere of Romulus and it goes boom.
Original I was very much anti Battle Tug but the more I think about it the more I reallies.... what the heck... everyone got a Battleship after all.
But before/if we see a Battle Tug could we please see Tugs with Self Defence Pods. ![Confused](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) _________________ -Dal
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ericphillips Commander
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:24 am Post subject: |
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Mike wrote: | Two points about battle tugs.
1. I thought they pre-dated any dreadnoughts in SFB (at least, the early Commander's Edition that I used).
2. They were not supposed to be permanent ships on duty. The battle pod(s) were kept at some starbases in mothballs only to be hard-attached to a tug when an admiral needed a ship with those heavy weapons in a fleet he was commanding. Even then, the attachment process would have to take awhile to complete.
This is why I have problems with Federation Commander's theme of "no history." Some things are just easier to explain with some history behind them.
Perhaps BoM? |
Yeah, I dont mind the history part. I do like the Middle Years ideas, and look forward to other "Era" books. They simplify it: just grab the card for the era and you are set. No extra boxes that are not used cluttering. Keep the rules changes simple.
I havent bought briefing 1 yet, but I am trying out the CA from Communique 41. Dont want to get an enemy behind that ship!!!! LOL |
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