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chazrobbins

Ok, we got the ruling that declaring Emergency Deceleration comes BEFORE declaring acceleration at the beginning of an impulse (thanks Mike).

Next question:

When does declaring cancelling EM occur in relation to declaring cancellation of Evasive Manouvers? (Yes, these questions are really and truly coming up in our games.)

Thanks,
Chuck
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Savedfromwhat · Commander Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 657

I am not sure i understand can you re-explain the problem

Kang · Last edited by Kang on Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:18 am; edited 2 times in total

chazrobbins · Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:29 pm Post subject:

Hod K'el · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:12 am Post subject:

EM is always in 'OTHER'. Do it / stop it in 'OTHER'.

ED is at the start of the impulse.
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mjwest · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:44 am Post subject:

Let's see what Steve says. The MITS cards could easily sink my ruling.

I am trying to make sure all of these will be in the next Communique.
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djdood · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:24 am Post subject:

I still preferred the "original" name for those cards... Razz

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Kang · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:58 am Post subject:

Kang · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:07 am Post subject:

mjwest · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject:

Kang is correct: Evasive Maneuvers are canceled in the Speed Change Phase. (EM is just weird.)

Anyway, is there anything else that takes place in the Speed Change Phase that needs to be considered, too? (Besides acceleration, ED, and canceling EM.)
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DNordeen · Commander Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 564

MJ - There's nothing else that I know of happening during Speed Change.
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mjwest · Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:42 pm Post subject:

As an aside on this, I have sent in the list of line items that were generated by the recent posts. I have not yet received confirmation one way or the other on the ordering in the Speed Change Phase. I will be sure to post once I get answer back, and it is most likely that the order presented on the MITS cards is the one that will be used.

(The reason is because even if that order causes undesired [to me anyway] side effects, it does work and it is in print. Better to be consistent with product in print when possible.)
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Mike · Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject:

Wait a sec!

There was something about those MITS cards that was wrong. Was it the order of tractors and transporters? I think that was it. It was definitely in the wrong order from the way it was printed in the actual rulebook. I remember this coming up in a thread before and how it might have different effects. There was a scenario/situation asked about where it would definitely make a difference in the sequencing of those events.
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mjwest · Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject:

I will have to go back though the MITS cards to check for errors, but having only one error is better than having two. At that point, they become as much of a hindrance as a help.

So, in light of that, the order in the Speed Change Phase is the same as given on the MITS cards:
- Declare Acceleration
- Declare Emergency Deceleration
- Cancel Evasive Maneuvers.

Yes, this reverses my prior ruling. Note that this was my recommendation to Steve after much deliberation. In this case there is nothing "broken" about the ordering on the MITS cards, so I think precident rules. My biggest error in this whole thing was not first checking the MITS cards before speaking.
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chazrobbins · Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: