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David Lieutenant Commander

Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 228 Location: Florida
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: Frax |
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Looking through CL #16 and enjoyed the article and SSD's on the Frax. Even though they are imaginary Klingon opponents (from what the article stated), has anyone used them either as a battle or along with the other races in a campaign?
I like the look and design of the ships. And they look like they'd be sturdy ships in combat. If you have used them, we did you place them on the map in relation to the other races?
Also, what did/do you use for counters? Thanks. _________________ My other car is a D7 BattleCruiser. |
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Scoutdad Commodore

Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 4754 Location: Middle Tennessee
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Our gaming group has used them in several battles in the past.
Usually as opponents of hte Klingons (as they were designed), but occasionally as opponents of the other races.
Never used them in a Campaign, so no idea where to place them.
As for counters, there was a full set of 1/2" counters for them in Module C4, and we did our own 1" mega-hex type counters. _________________ Commander, Battlegroup Murfreesboro
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SWO_Daddy Lieutenant SG

Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 195 Location: Stuttgart, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Used the Frax a handful of times. In a lot of ways, they are better sabre dancers than Klingons.
Module C4 covers them in much greater detail. I can't remember precisely (rulebook not handy), but I believe they would be placed in a Northern portion of historical Klingon territory. Would make their neighbors Klingons and Kzintis (races they are ideally suited to fighting) and perhaps the Feds and/or the Lyrans. The Lyrans can be particularly hard on them, as the AFD system is only spooky if the enemy uses seeking weapons or DF fighters, and the ESG makes the subs really tough to employ. _________________ Check out my website at: http://www.jgray-sfb.com/
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ctchapel Lieutenant JG

Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 84 Location: Federal Way, WA
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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I remember somthing along the line of " the Kaltic States" and the were placed like Jeremy says, along the Kzinti border.
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Dal Downing Commander

Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 648 Location: Western Wisconsin
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:47 am Post subject: |
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It is the Kaltic States and they were "assigned" the Provinces along the Kzinti Border. They were the Bad Guys used in the Annual War Games and simulated a Hostile invasion that the DSF had to drive out of Klingon Space. _________________ -Dal
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David Lieutenant Commander

Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 228 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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SWO_Daddy wrote: | In a lot of ways, they are better sabre dancers than Klingons.
The Lyrans can be particularly hard on them, as the AFD system is only spooky if the enemy uses seeking weapons or DF fighters, and the ESG makes the subs really tough to employ. |
I can see them being especially well suited for sabre dancing or even waggling due to the great firing arcs.
In regards to the AFD system, against the Lyrans (or anyone) they would still operate as a Ph-G correct? _________________ My other car is a D7 BattleCruiser. |
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SWO_Daddy Lieutenant SG

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:51 am Post subject: |
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The AFDs Ph-G is restricted to size class 6 or 7 targets. I suppose it has value if the Lyrans decide to use fighters or suicide shuttles, but otherwise it doesn't have much use vs the Lyrans.
In fact, the Frax would be probably be better served by not taking the AFD refit at all vs the Lyrans, as the stardard Ph-3s they replace can fire at ships, while the AFD can't. However, the AFD does provide a phaser pad against both phaser and drone hits, so if they want to protect their drone racks, it might still be an OK buy. _________________ Check out my website at: http://www.jgray-sfb.com/
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David Lieutenant Commander

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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:21 am Post subject: |
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Would a plasma torpedo be a viable target for the AFD? _________________ My other car is a D7 BattleCruiser. |
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Steve Cole Site Admin

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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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An AFD is a combination of an anti-drone (which wont' work on plasma) and a phaser-G (which will). _________________ The Guy Who Designed Fed Commander
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David Lieutenant Commander

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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Steve Cole wrote: | An AFD is a combination of an anti-drone (which wont' work on plasma) and a phaser-G (which will). |
Thank you. I was pretty sure it was that way but wanted to make sure. I like the design of these ships from the stand point of the excellent firing arcs. A broad side attack brings pretty much every weapon to bear on a target. This really brings up some options and could really discourage someone trying to charge in on you.
We've got a game planned for today and my son says he's going to give them a try. I'm looking forward to seeing the ship in action. _________________ My other car is a D7 BattleCruiser. |
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MikeBurke Lieutenant SG

Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 129 Location: Frederickburg Virginia
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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I like Frax. I handmade counters for them before they were officially released in C4. The color was black on tan I made a whole fleet of Frax ships. I had used die cut counters from Chessex. So I have two Frax fleets now like I have the two Jindarian fleets. that was when the SSDs from the original playtest module came out but long before the C4 ever came out. Those counters are properly sized and designated. _________________ "This Ship Was Built To Fight- You Had Better Know How" - Adm. Arleigh Burke - USN
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David Lieutenant Commander

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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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We never did play the Frax, but would like to at some point. Still think they've got some great firing arcs. _________________ My other car is a D7 BattleCruiser. |
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Scharwenka Lieutenant SG

Joined: 27 Dec 2008 Posts: 141
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Although they are "imaginary" do the Frax have an empire emblem? I have the books and don't see it, nor have I found anything in the empire insignia and I'm working on some artwork. Thanks! _________________
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mjwest Commodore

Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 4063 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, yes they do. It is printed on each Frax ship card for Federation Commander.
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Scharwenka Lieutenant SG

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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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mjwest wrote: | Yes, yes they do. It is printed on each Frax ship card for Federation Commander.
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Sweet, thanks! That looks familiar now, one thing i dont have are the fedcom SSDs! _________________
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