Federation Commander

[Kang]

Ok, I've got my copy of W&P. Most impressive....

Of course I have some questions; these on Power Absorbers:

1) If a PA Panel is hit during damage allocation, does the disabled panel have to be in the facing bank or can it be anywhere on the ship?

2) (3G7b) says that H/R raids attack '..a bank (not panel)', but also says '....only one raid (per opposing side) can attack each panel'.

Is that a misprint, as H/R attacks raid a bank, not a panel?

3) In (3G2b), every tenth damage point scored, when Disruptors are included in a volley, is scored as a burnthrough. We have never before had the situation where more than one burnthrough is scored in a single volley, so this has never cropped up before - but is all the burnthrough scored on the same row of the damage table? Normally, all burnthrough is scored on the first row of the table, because there's only ever been a maximum of one point.

I'm thinking a Command Note here: If you are up against an Andromedan ship and have Disruptors, always aim to score at least 30 points and always target his weapons. That way, you may score three burnthrough which could knock out a PA panel. But that's one for another board, and even then only if all the burnthrough is scored as a single volley.
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[terryoc]

1. I think it can be anywhere. Didn't see anything saying it had to be the facing panel bank.

2. yep, mjwest clarified this, it's one raid per bank.

3. yes, I think it's all as a single volley. As for the disruptor tactic, if you can score 30 points in a single volley without overloading disruptors, well done to you. Note also that Satellite Ships don't have some things like shuttle bays, labs, or tractor beams and this can cause damage to be lost to skips if you do this against sat ships. Personally I think it's more important to kill the Andro's batteries.
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"Captain" Terry O'Carroll, fourteen papers published including six best of issue
"Man, Terry, you are like a loophole seeking missle!" - Mike West

[mjwest]

Terry got them right.
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Federation Commander Answer Guy

[Kang]

Gentlemen, thank you both for the clarifications - and the tactical advice Terry.
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[Tiigo]

I think I am still a little confused on the every 10th point of disruptor damage is a burn through idea. Lets say I have a volley that does 60 points of damage. That would be 6 points of burn through, correct? Now lets say I have a volley that does 60 points of damage, but 30 of that comes from disruptors. Is this cumulative? Would it be 6 points of burn through for the total volley + 3 more points for burn through from the disruptor damage? I guess I am confused by the additional mention of disruptor damage.

Thanks!

[DirkSJ]

[Tiigo]

[Kang]

Yes, which is why my original tactical note would be valid. Yes it appears that "if you can score 30 points in a single volley without overloading disruptors, well done to you", but in reality when you throw in one disruptor into a salvo of, say, phasers, then you do stand a chance of getting those three burnthroughs.
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[terryoc]

[response moved to Tactics section]
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"Captain" Terry O'Carroll, fourteen papers published including six best of issue
"Man, Terry, you are like a loophole seeking missle!" - Mike West

[Tiigo]

So, upon reflection on this, I think we have been playing this incorrectly (and therefore my confusion regarding the distinction of whether disruptors are included here or not against Andros). Our reading of 3C8 was that for every 10 points in a volley that did not burn through a shield 1 point would be scored as an internal. Against non-Andros or if there aren't disruptors used against and Andro, is there only a max of 1 point of burn through ever recorded per volley?

You'd think after having playing this for about year we'd know this one way or another.

[DirkSJ]

[DirkSJ]

[Tiigo]

Ok, its crystal now, thanks!

[terryoc]

Dirk, you don't total up the damage THEN resolve the volley, you decide which volley to resolve THEN roll the damage. All the weapons fired from one ship at one target in one impulse is one volley. The damage is also consequently one volley, but you don't get to roll damage then figure out which one to resolve first. Rolling the damage is part of the resolution of each volley, and once you start resolving one volley you can't begin resolving another.
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"Captain" Terry O'Carroll, fourteen papers published including six best of issue
"Man, Terry, you are like a loophole seeking missle!" - Mike West

[DirkSJ]