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gurps_gm
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:38 am    Post subject: Federation Dreadought Names Reply with quote

The names of Fed Dreadnoughts sound uninspiring in my opinion. I know that the names are taken from the Franz Josef book. Has there been any thought to officially rename these ships?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can name them anything you want in your own sessions, but the names in the SFU have all been established for over 30 years and are unlikely to change.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Officially published names never change.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Cole wrote:
Officially published names never change.


Of course. I wish I could have talked to Franz Josef back in '73.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're not the only one.

Even though he's one of the people who inspired me into my career, I'd love to have challenged him on the 'shuttlebay on the front of the dreadnought' decision.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an engineer, I thought that forward facing shuttle bay thing was wrong the first second I saw it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not an engineer and I was like 10 years old when I first read the tech manual, but I have to acknowledge that the forward facing shuttle bay is just silly.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And yet, the police cutter has a forward-facing shuttle bay .............
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't the Kzinti cruisers all have large forward shuttle bay doors?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the Kzinti have forward doors and underside hatches on a lot of them.

A forward-facing shuttlebay is totally "do-able" in a world where tractor beams exist. However, it doesn't pass the KISS rule of design (Keep It Simple, Stupid).

A rear-facing shuttlebay allows shuttles to make their approaches under their own power and completely unassisted, if need be, which is very useful in rescue and recovery situations with the receiving ship's tractors out of commission (or worse). The receiving ship can be completely passive.

A forward-facing bay pretty much requires some effort on the receiving ship's part, which could be a problem in some situations.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That, and how the heck do you use droges with front doors?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could be done (and apparently is done on the DN and Kzinti), but would involve complicated stuff with tractor beams and maybe even extensible booms.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With enough handwavium, anything is possible!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Steve Cole said: "Officially published names never change."
However, he didn't mention that you are free to suggest new names to be added to the list. You'll need a bit of justification beyond "it just sounds kewl" and even then he might not use it. And the DN list appears to be pretty much maxed out.

I am curious, tho, as to what names you wanted the list changed to.......
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have tried to come up with something.
I think naming a prominent vessel "Federation" makes it a more tempting target.
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