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pinecone

Hi guys! After my first scenario with my dad for over half a year, ir became quite obvious (despite the fact that he won, a battle report I will post later) that he does not know the standard klingon tactics. I hav prined off a description of the sabre-dance, shallow sabre-dance, knife fight and waggle for him, but I was wondering what a good scenario would be to test these. I know that the Frax were designed for that purpose, but I want to start him off with something that will show the importance of the sabre dance. Any suggestions?

mjwest · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:37 am Post subject:

Yes. Fight against a photon ship. Perhaps a D5W vs an NCA. You take the NCA and make sure you overload the photons. Now his job is to fight you without ever getting inside 8 hexes of range. I.e., he must sabre dance or get smacked with four overloaded photons.

Once he learns it with the D5W's wider arcs, graduate him to the D7 against a CA. Again, make sure the CA is holding overloads. Now, he has to do it again, but with less advantageous disruptor arcs.
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storeylf · Fleet Captain Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 1887

The best way to make someone rethink is to beat their current tactics consistently. After all, standard tactics don't mean only tactics, if he won without using 'standard tactics' then why would he need to learn other methods.

Take a Ranger or Mohawk against a D5. Feds are a little random if you only play the odd game - even if the Feds does get to range 8 he can still miss with photons. The Hydran is pretty consistent in its damage output at close range and will hose a D5. Play on a floating map, there is little point trying to emphasize 'sabre-dance' on a small fixed map where it just isn't possible to maintain range.

pinecone · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:48 pm Post subject:

Thanks guys, I will take this into account.

And the reason it's imprtant for him to learn is because the particular scenario we were playing required him to get in close and fast, and I made a mistake in overloading one of his ships with damage. (The scenario being "The bigger they are..." from CL37). But in a standard duel, it's imprtand that he learns he can't just run in and smash like he did with his battleship in thuis scenario.

Brazouck · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:50 pm Post subject:

storeylf · Fleet Captain Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 1887

With difficulty!

Brazouck · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject:

I ask myself if I choose klingons or Romulans for the jnext tournament, Feds are too much binary for me
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Klingon of Gor · Lieutenant SG Joined: 01 Jun 2011 Posts: 150

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pinecone · Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:58 am Post subject:

You mention new edition rules... are they universal, or only for tourneys?

mjwest · Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:48 am Post subject:

They are the rules. There are three actual changes (rather than simple clarifications) that were made in the Rev6 version of the rules:
1) The 3 impulse delay between firings of a particle cannon only applies within a turn. There is no delay over a turn break.
2) Plasma may use the "dump the batteries for prior turns of arming". So, if they start with empty batteries, they can start with on their final turn of arming. (So, they may fire Pl-G, Pl-S, and Pl-R torpedoes on turn #1.)
3) ADDs can be used offensively against nearby drones and shuttles (and fighters).

The other cool thing about the Reference Rulebook R6 (RRB6) is that it includes all of the rules from War & Peace, including several clarifications and 'bug fixes'.

EDIT: Fixed an extraneous "not" in the above parenthetical comment.
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Sneaky Scot · Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:54 am Post subject:

Sorry Mike, but doesn't (4J2e) mean you can fire Plasma-G/S/R on Turn #1 if you start with empty batteries?
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Brazouck · Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:23 am Post subject:

pinecone · Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:13 pm Post subject:

Yeah, that's a bit confusing. So they can dump the batteries to get 2 turns arming right away, doesn't that mean if they finish loading they'll be ready by turn 1? Confused

Mike · Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:21 pm Post subject:

That IS what it means. I think Mike must've accidentally put in the word "not" unintentionally. Plasmas can now start the game with 2 prior turns of arming already done at a cost of empty batteries. All they have to do is pay for their 3rd turn of arming during energy allocation and they are ready to launch.
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mjwest · Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:19 pm Post subject:

As Mike points out, it should be extremely clear that the "not" was a mistake. If I am highlighting it as a change, then, obviously, the rule has changed, and not remained the same.

Anyway, I have no idea how I could think one thing and type the exact opposite. Especially since I went back and reread it, too! Must be the preliminary stages of senility or something. Regardless, I have fixed the earlier message.

So, yes, you CAN have your Pl-G, Pl-S, and Pl-R ready to fire on turn #1.
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