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Winter 2012 FCOL Tourney: Info, Announcements and Deadlines
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Archer
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Archer sign up Reply with quote

Archer wrote:
Sign me up for Seltorians.

Archer



Sure would appreciate a couple more sign ups for Seltorians, 0.88 is way to low. I would rather not win that way. Don't particularly want to fly Selts anyway, but don't want to get beat by them either!

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The_Rock
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seltorians are good at any multiplier.

Light DN + 2xNCA = 259 points. So even at a .96 they are getting 30 p-1s.

Selts are just completely unpopular, possibly because no one knows them or possibly because of their SFB tournament ship sucking so badly. The PC is terrible, but they are going to be 6-12 P-1s up on everyone else.

It is the granularity effect again. Their tournament legal fleet is a CA and 2xNCA. at 426 points it has 28 p-1s, 10 PCs and 6 WBs. That is probably a little weak, but still good. They have nothing, however, on which to spend the extra 24 points, because the next thing up from the CA/NCA is the DNL at 175 points. They should get more play than they do based on strength alone.
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storeylf
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget the 18 hit and run attacks, or even a realistic chance of capture.
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VulcanDropout
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:21 am    Post subject: Sign me up for the gorn Reply with quote

last time, as the romulan, I didn't cloak once. Guess I'm a gorn at heart.
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VulcanDropout
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:10 am    Post subject: Scratch that Reply with quote

I noticed the ISC i submitted are in. Might try those. How many points can we spend?
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JimDauphinais
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are those ISC ships now in FCOL fully tested?

The ISC multiplier is 1.00 since they are untested. So, you need to spend between 425 and 450 points on them.
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JimDauphinais
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We effectively have 4 players who will select the Seltorians at 0.88 (Brandon, Paul, Patrick and myself). I could wait around for 5th signup for them at 0.88 to prove the consensus is that they are underpriced at 0.88, but based on likely oversubscription, let's just go ahead now and move the Seltorian multiplier to 0.92 and be done with it.

I will stick with the Selts at 0.92.

Thus, so far for signups we have:

1) Jim Dauphinais -- Seltorian (at 0.92)

2) Patrick -- Gorns (at 0.96)

3) Paul (The_Rock) -- Romulans (at 0.92 unless he is voluntarily taking them at 0.96 to keep Patrick happy)

4) Brandon (Archer) -- To be determined ( Seltorians now cost 0.92 rather than 0.88 )

5) Fred (Krellex) -- Frax (at 0.96)

6) Phil (VulcanDropout) -- To be determined, possibly ISC
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mojo jojo
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Selts used to be really bad when the PC 3 impulse delay extended over turn breaks. I think that's where they got a lot of their bad reputation.

Now they're pretty good with lots of PH-1s. 10 PH-1 on a DNL or NCA is pretty awesome.
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Krellex
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ehh, Frax show as 0.96 in the OP. Unless there are a bunch of stealth Frax that we don't know about yet pushing the multiplier back up. Shocked
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JimDauphinais
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about that. I have fixed the earlier post.
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pinecone
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello guys! I have not come to a final conclusion as to whether I will participate in the tourney or not. If I do play, I think I will play with the WYN. I'll update as the deadline gets closer.

And also, I will participate in the next Summer tournament (likely #5). I'm just very busy with schoolwork right now.
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storeylf
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming the Orions are sorted for what I want in time I'll be in with them, other wise I'll pass again.
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JimDauphinais
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Signups Update:

1) Jim Dauphinais -- Seltorian

2) Patrick -- Gorns

3) The_Rock -- Romulans (at 0.92 unless he is voluntarily taking them at 0.96 to keep Patrick happy)

4) Archer -- To be determined ( Seltorians now cost 0.92 rather than 0.88 )

5) Krellex -- Frax

6) VulcanDropout -- To be determined, possibly ISC

7) Ncrcalamine -- Orion


Maybes:

Pinecone

Storeylf
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VulcanDropout
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:56 am    Post subject: ISC tryout Reply with quote

The ISC PPD doesn't seem to be implemented. So I guess I'll be flying Gorns.
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The_Rock
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee,
I spoke to Paul again this morning, he is still looking into the option mount issue, but expects to have it resolved before the tournament.

Everyone else,
Please check your library ASAP. If your ship is not there and you want it to be, I need to know soon. The process for getting defs done is longer now.
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