Federation Commander

[mjwest]

[JimDauphinais]

I suspect the ships will also all be in color in an ePack. They were in greyscale in Captain's Log.
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Jim Dauphinais, Chesterfield, MO

St. Louis Area Fed Comm Group: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/STL_Federation_Commander/

[Nerroth]

On that note, I wonder: might it be worth offering both standard and low-toner versions of the sample Ship Cards in this pack, akin to the options provided in the Omega and LMC playtest files?
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FC Omega Discussion (v3)
FC LMC Discussion

[Steve Cole]

Two options sounds like extra work and I don't see anything that adds work to the project being considered.
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The Guy Who Designed Fed Commander

[Paul B]

If someone's printing them out and wants to save on ink they can just throw it on draft quality I would think.

Thanks for clearing it up btw. I'll probably pass on any PDF pack but will check it out if it makes store shelves. I did however pick up the playtest packs for the two potential expansions (LMC + Omega)

[Steve Cole]

You could be blocking your own wish. It will never get to the stores until we sell enough PDFs to prove there is a market. It might never get to the stores anyway; Omega may well end up being a mail order only thing because of cost issues.

Seriously, Paul B, you're the guy campaigning for this, and since you just announced you won't buy it, that tends to indicate that I need to not waste my time.
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The Guy Who Designed Fed Commander

[Paul B]

[jeffery smith]

while I have not actively campaign for this I will be happy to see it in any form I can get it in.
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[Steve Cole]

"There are clearly other people who are very interested in EY"

Actually, not very many, and none as enthusiastic as yourself. YOU started the current conversation, and to have now discovered we're working at cross purposes makes me think my time is better spent somewhere else. I'm not angry; I'm just discovering that I mis-appreciated the situation.

You were "campaigning for a booster pack" but the very definition of term means that you were campaigning for something we can't do. (We lost money on Booster Zero and only did it as a sign of good faith to SFB players that we'd eventually bring those empires into FC. I need proof that there is an EY market, not another way to lose money. A Booster-Zero concept would be a way to convince you that we're going to do EY. A PDF pack is a way for you to convince us that you'll buy a product. I'm the one who needs convincing.)

Absent some support from others (preferably at least a dozen, and we have two so far) I think this project was doomed from the start.
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The Guy Who Designed Fed Commander

[mjwest]

Would you please put the tenth ship card into Communique, assuming it is really done.
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Federation Commander Answer Guy

[Nerroth]

For what it's worth, I'd be keen to get an Early Years playtest pack as a PDF. I'm always excited to see FC go into uncharted eras and settings, though I was fortunate in that Rick was able to provide me with the InDesign templates needed to develop the Omega and LMC playtest packs into what they are today.

(Since I can't afford to actually buy a full copy of InDesign outright, I have to rely on windows of opportunity in which I can make use of trial versions of the software.)

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Alternatively, might it be an idea to salvage the work already done on the pre-existing Y-era Ship Cards by modifying them into their National Guard/Local Defence incarnations from Module R8, putting them into a new "Ships of the National Guards" ePack, and allowing players to make use of them in the Middle Years or the Main Era?

The Republic-class YCA lived on through the "modern" era in the form of the National Guard GCA (and of its various step-sisters, like the GSR NCC-1011 USS Amerigo Vespucci from Module R11).

Indeed, such a role might allow other Y-era hull types, such as the "two-prong" ISC YCA, to have a fresh lease of life as G/L-era hulls even as they are retired from front-line service.

And one might still be able to "work backwards", in terms of figuring out how to use each ship as its Y-era counterpart.
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FC Omega Discussion (v3)
FC LMC Discussion

[Paul B]

Well yes we misunderstood each - other, as I understood you to have a resistance to expansion sized printings, not printings altogether. Also of course I'm not privy to adb's numbers so don't know what did or did not make money aside from what disappointments have been mentioned on the forum (specifically briefing #2 and reinforcements attack).

In any case, as I was campaigning for content I will in this case support an EY pdf and pledge to pick it up once it's available in the hopes of possibly seeing some more printed materials down the road.

Thanks

[Steve Cole]

There are always ways and options. On a lark I got a press quote to actually print 100 copies of a 12-card expansion pack just to prove that Paul B is wrong and I'm right.

It's not .... impossible. It might even work as mail order only. Or maybe not. Anyway, it's something to look into, but only because 10 of the 12 cards already exist, the 11th is easy, and the 12th needed doing, and the rules are done. You'd have to use SFB counters (no way at all it's even possible to consider doing die cuts on this thing). Even then, I doubt Leanna will approve it, and CL50 needs to be done first, but it's not a $5000 check to print .... something.
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The Guy Who Designed Fed Commander

[JimDauphinais]

Whether a pdf pack or a laminated ship card pack, I will buy it.

Just at least include the 10th ship and the missing Laser fire table for the Romulan WB.
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Jim Dauphinais, Chesterfield, MO

St. Louis Area Fed Comm Group: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/STL_Federation_Commander/

[mjwest]