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TJolley
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There could be a couple of fun scenarios in there where Hydrans send off a deep strike Stinger raid against Klingon Mining colonies, some convoys, maybe a mobile base or a Base station, etc

I don't see lone Stingers as a 'tactic' though, because as stated, being limited to speed 16, and typically facing Klingons, Stingers will never be able to close the range and will be eaten alive by long range fire.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But that draws fire from the capitol ship.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinecone wrote:
But that draws fire from the capitol ship.


Fire that would otherwise go where?

The entire point of this is a scenario in which the Hydran side is composed of nothing but Stingers. What else is the capitol ship going to shoot at?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TJolley wrote:
I don't see lone Stingers as a 'tactic' though, because as stated, being limited to speed 16, and typically facing Klingons, Stingers will never be able to close the range and will be eaten alive by long range fire.


I was stating that the stingers could just be used as dummies, in fleet action.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinecone wrote:
I was stating that the stingers could just be used as dummies, in fleet action.


Huh? That makes no sense..as they would BE the Fleet
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A fleet action with capitol ships. i misunderstood the original statement.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original statement:
[quote=]could I just buy a fleet of Stingers without Capital Ships? (Not saying I would, but you never know...)[/quote]

Todd is correct. If you bought a fleet of Stingers in lieu of capital ships, they would be the fleet and would be the only thing the base could fire it's phaser-4's at.

Boy, can you imagine how frustrating it would be to have to fire a range 12 phaser-4 at a single Stinger! Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the stinger could never close the range, or Die.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is why you'd have to send them against a fixed or slow moving target, like a Base Station or a supply convoy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wouldn't use them against a base station, but a supply convoy might work.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only scenario I could see as an honest "Stinger only" fleet action would be planetary defense --
As stated, with a speed of 16, can't see them being very effective even in that instance --
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinecone wrote:
But the stinger could never close the range, or Die.


Are you kidding me? I'd go on EM, and close to point blank range, come off of EM and vaporize the Star Base.

At Fleet Scale, you are talking what 35 Stingers at Fleet Scale.(don't have the SB card Handy)

so the base Kills 10-12 ..I will still have about 25 Stingers..so 100 P-3's and 25 Fusion Beams..that's what..400-450 points of damage..Dead base..even half that number of stingers..still a dead base.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bolo_MK_XL wrote:
The only scenario I could see as an honest "Stinger only" fleet action would be planetary defense --
As stated, with a speed of 16, can't see them being very effective even in that instance --


that or a minig colony raid, or a fleet supply train interdiction..but very limited uses.

I could also see a scenario where a patrol comes across the carrier fleet while the Stingers are off on their mission..could be a cool scenario too. Also an Excuse to get teh Uhlan or Cavalier carriers into the game Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TJolley wrote:
pinecone wrote:
But the stinger could never close the range, or Die.


Are you kidding me? I'd go on EM, and close to point blank range, come off of EM and vaporize the Star Base.

At Fleet Scale, you are talking what 35 Stingers at Fleet Scale.(don't have the SB card Handy)

so the base Kills 10-12 ..I will still have about 25 Stingers..so 100 P-3's and 25 Fusion Beams..that's what..400-450 points of damage..Dead base..even half that number of stingers..still a dead base.


I didn't know that stingers Could EM.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinecone wrote:
I didn't know that stingers Could EM.


Read the fighter rules again then Smile

They can EM and HET
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