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				|  Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject: What if SFB went into the refit era? (Artwork) |   |  
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				| This isn't serious, but I got a TON of requests on trekbbs.com to make schematics for SFB ships as if they were refit as per Star Trek: The Motion Picture.  So, as they're done, I'll throw them up here. 
 Burke Class Frigate
 
   
 Ramius Class Heavy Frigate
 
   
 Constitution Class Heavy Cruiser
 
  
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		| Vanguard Lieutenant SG
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:48 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Moncrief Class Tug/Transport (Ptolemy Uprated) 
   
 Chicago Class War Destroyer
 
   
 Wolverine Class Fast Cruiser
 
  
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		| Vanguard Lieutenant SG
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Compactat Class DN 
   
 Federation Class DN
 
   
 Hermes Class SC
 
  
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		| Vanguard Lieutenant SG
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Kirov Class BC 
   
 Entente Class DN
 
   
 Kearsarge Class Light Cruiser
 
  
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		| junior Captain
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Fun 
 
 Couple of items -
 
 What's with the indent in the saucer section of most of the smaller ships?  Just curious.
 
 Also, I assume that the Kearsarge is supposed to be an NCL?  How about doing a refitted Old Light Cruiser as well?
 
 (yes, I know that the old CL is supposed to be an incredibly old hull...)
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		| Vanguard Lieutenant SG
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The BigMac 
   
 Mars Class Battleship
 
   
 Jenghiz Class DD (Saladin Uprated)
 
  
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		| Vanguard Lieutenant SG
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Two Moons Class DD 
   
 Napoleon Class CV
 
   
 Shuttlecarrier Pod
 (I won't bother posting ALL the pod variants, since they're very similar and there's a ton of them)
 
  
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		| Vanguard Lieutenant SG
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:05 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | junior wrote: |  	  | What's with the indent in the saucer section of most of the smaller ships?  Just curious. | 
 
 Actually, it's something I do for designs that are supposed to have uprated torpedo launchers, but didn't have them in the art. I felt the indent gives the ship a slightly meaner look without drastically altering its structure to accommodate the launcher.
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | (yes, I know that the old CL is supposed to be an incredibly old hull...) | 
 
 Oh, I've been asked a lot for that, but I'm actually not sure what to do with the hull yet. It's tricksies.
   
 Ortega Class Destroyer
 
   
 Donovan Class Scout
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Glorious work, Vanguard. (If you're not Neale, then Neale is going to be jealous.) You probably violated more Paramount copyrights than I can count, but still glorious. _________________
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:04 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I was wondering why the warp nacelles of the light cruiser are turned 90 degrees? _________________
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Steve Cole wrote: |  	  | Glorious work, Vanguard. (If you're not Neale, then Neale is going to be jealous.) You probably violated more Paramount copyrights than I can count, but still glorious. | 
 
 It's me, and thanks for the kind words.
 
 And, I'm not too worried about Paramount, since I'm getting input from the guys who designed the ships themselves! They just seem happy to keep their designs alive.
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Mike wrote: |  	  | I was wondering why the warp nacelles of the light cruiser are turned 90 degrees? | 
 
 I was trying to invoke a feel between the Constellation (the nacelle assembly) and the Soyuz  (the turrets) to make the new light cruiser work. The NCA always seemed a bit more 'battle rushed' in design to me compared to the sleeker look of the CA series, and the Soyuz and Constellation were naturals to draw from.
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				|  Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:41 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| If you had put those NCL engines at a slight angle, you would have perfectly duplicated the 'Firesoul' NCL from SFC: 
   
 I really like the slanted engines.
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				|  Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I've got nothing on the official models and designs from SFC, unfortunately. You're not the first person to point out that game's ships - but I don't have any information or artwork on them to go from. |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Vanguard wrote: |  	  | I've got nothing on the official models and designs from SFC, unfortunately. You're not the first person to point out that game's ships - but I don't have any information or artwork on them to go from. | 
 Well, you now have at least one picture to go on.
  I figured that you didn't have a reference point to a long OOP game, so that is why I included the image ... 
 Part of the reason people will make the link is that you and Firesoul basically had the same goal: reinterpret the classic SFB designs using Movie-era styles. Because of that, you are guaranteed to overlap. A lot.
 
 (Also, keep in mind that these comparisons are likely between your and Firesoul's designs, not the native SFC designs.)
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