Federation Commander

Scoutdad wrote:Use the FC:MSC (Federation Commander: Master Ship Chart). It's a free download in the Commanders Circle section of the board. It lists all of the ships, Alphabetically... by Empire. [Jean: note correct useage of Empire!] Then, the data boxes include the ship card number (you do have your cards sorted by number, don't you?) for each ship card.

FWIW, that is how I figured out the list I used up above.

asguard101 wrote:its just a thought, and I din't know the legal side of it, but wouldn't it be easier to just give permission to make a limited amount of copies of the "convoy" ships (like is done for the Comm ships)

You already have that permission. You may make a reasonable number of copies of ship cards for your own personal use. Therefore, if you needed a few extra freighters for some particular battle, you are free to do so.

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pinecone wrote:If it were possible, I'd like to see Small, Large, and Heavy freighters and Armed prority transporst on cards that have the front and back fleet/squad. Whenever I play a convoy scenario I can never find the right freighter.

More Free traders would be awsome too

I bet Steve would be willing to run them off (that is if you're willing to write the check )

Seriously though, I don't think we'll see those reprinted in that order... at least not in the forseeable future.

To help you find the correct one, I can offer a couple of suggestions:
1) Use the FC:MSC (Federation Commander: Master Ship Chart). It's a free download in the Commanders Circle section of the board. It lists all of the ships, Alphabetically... by Empire. [Jean: note correct useage of Empire!] Then, the data boxes include the ship card number (you do have your cards sorted by number, don't you?) for each ship card.
2) Try the method I use. I took a fine-point Sharpie brand marker, adn wrote the corresponding ship card number on each card.
i.e., The Fleet Scale small freighter (card 45) has the number "15" written on it. This let's me know (in case I happen to find the fleet scale version first...) that I can find the Squadron Scale version on card 15. And so on...

Acutually, I have my ships soted by empire and cost (The first ship I see opening up the case that I hold them in is the Fed POL). All the general cards are together, so I guess it's not that tough to find.

Still, it would be nice...

Reactivating the thread for SVC....

Random thoughts....

1. If you guys can agree on a pack of existing cards, I can have it on the cart by Monday.

2. If we're talking new cards, I can mix them into the sheets being printed in June. Maybe it would sell better if we had a new ship or two in it. I guess technically it could be $15 and have 12 cards or $20 and have 16 cards.

3. Reprinting freighter cards with the right backs/fronts is possible, but the problem is you have to convince Leanna that we will sell enough of them to make it worth the bother. Normally that means putt ing them into a real product (e.g, Convoy Attack with sixteen cards and a sheet of counters.)

Now, here is an insanely crazy thought.

Do a new $30 product CONVOY ATTACK which as 16 ship cards, some of which are the replacement back to back ship cards, some of which are the missing police ships (Klingon G2, Kzinti FFK), some of which are armed auxiliaries, and so forth.

Including the armed freighter would give a nice little boost. If you want more than one, you can do phaser, drone, and disruptor armed freighters.

Isn't it great to work with creative people

Nice idea. My copy will be on preorder with my FLGS as soon as you announce it.

I'd buy Convoy Attack just for the extra freighter cards with the right "backs".

If it is practical, I'd like to suggest that some of the "support ships" from the Federation Admiralty VBAM campaign guide be included in CA, like the light tugs, repair ships and maybe a generic ground weapons base. They'd be useful in campaigns and also make interesting targets in scenarios. I understand that there was already a plan to release such ships in a briefing-style format, but I'd be willing to pay more for laminated cards (and counters).

Light Tatical Transports I belive SVC said are Booster #94 so they will be laminated Cards. And I am guessing but I bet it will be the 8 main Empires in the Game now (Feddies, Klinkers, Lizards, Delusional Imperials, Rock Heads, Trash Can, Big Cats (With Democats), and Bigger Cats) Maybe the next LTT Special Booster someday will cover the other 4 Races the Freighty Birdie, the 2 forgotten ones, and a Andros =p

Edit: just realised I forgot the Bugs so maybe we will get 9 Cards in Booster #94 (Unless SVC gets qute and starts printing Ship Cards on the inside of the Booster Covers.)

As far as this Target of Opportunity Attack If we are talking about a full Attack style Product I assume it will have 16 new Ship. Would it also include 3 Booster to match up with it? If so how many "B" Cards are we looking at in each Booster? If it is 2 then we might be alble to beg for a total of 22 New Laminated Ship Cards and what 18 reissued cards like Frieghters?

On a similar note I like Terry's ideal of Ground Bases. That could be this packs gimick rule. Instead of a extra Map board maybe a Planetary Defence battalion laid out on a 8.5 by 11 Card Stock (Without Fighters except for Trash Cans of course.) OR We could get a double set of counters to cover Con Attack and the Special Booster like 92, 93 and 94. ( I wouldn't want them because I perfer Minis but I am sure their are a few out there that do want them.) Plus it may convince someone to go buy the Special Booster since they got the Counters in Con Attack.

This idea is certainly growing, isn't it....

Steve, a while back you also asked us what map panels we'd like. This is relevant here because, unless you're planning on using just a single 'stiffener' panel like in Orion Attack, could I please request a pair of standard Asteroid panels in this proposed new product. If I recall correctly, so far four have been released: two in Battleships Attack and two in Romulan Attack.

For me, the ability to have a six-panel asteroid map would be worth the extra money - I use large hexes almost exclusively and the map with four panels sometimes is simply not big enough.

I know this would raise the price, but you have had double map panels in an Attack product before so I'd suspect it's not a definite no-no.

BTW, Dal - I love the Targets of Opportunity name....

Or, how about setting it up as a sort of 'complete' Cargo/Transportation module?

So, we have new ships - tugs, LTTs, perhaps resupply ships, then as the bonus cards in the Boosters, you put the Freighters.

Or put the Freighters in the main product - perhaps two large freighters, with their small freighter cousins on the back as they are now - and the rest could be tugs, pods, the rest of the ideas.

Booster - pack Bonus ships could be the armed freighters, either generic ones, or two race-specific ones in each Booster. Or ground bases, if that's what the guys want. We could consult the 'what ships do you want?' thread...

Just ideas for the pot.....

The probelm with map panels is we won't print any more until 2012. We bought a trainload and they will last until then.

Boosters... could be. I dunno that you need 40 freighters.

Just going through and typing up a list for my own refrence I came up with a list of 22 New Freighter Cards that could be used, (Not sure you would want all of them in both Large and Small Variants but they are there.) plus 12 Police Ships, 6 Battle Escorts, and 7 Cool Targets of Opportunity, if you count both Tholian PC and CW Pinwheels. So the question is do people want a Convoy Attack Product or just want a straight up booster of existing Cards?

I would Prefer a New Attack Style Product (Or 2) without Map Panels but thats just me.

Steve Cole wrote:We bought a trainload

A trainload! Is that more than a truckload, then?

And can we see this list of 22?