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Flash on NCL and Dreadnought

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:17 am
by Savedfromwhat
How do you master modelers get the Flash out of the Fed NCL/NCA that has built up on the wall of the Hull and the Engine housing. If you start at the U around the command module it is the two spots behind the Command module. (even with a dremel it looks like if I bore these out I will lose a lot from the feature around the command module :( ).

Also the FED DN, Is the mold really old because my saucer section looks funky, almost lopsided.

Out of all 80 miniatures I have bought so far (not one is fully painted yet :D ) these two and the Klingon C9 are the only ones I am not perfectly contented with .

Here is my first hands free attempt for a Rom. :)

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:46 am
by Scoutdad
As for the flash, I use a set of fine needle files, exacto knives, sand paper, and sanding sticks to get the flash cleaned out.

I like the Rom as well. Is the bird free-handed or is it a decal?

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:58 am
by djdood
I don't recall any major flash problems with my NCL's and NCA's, but I cleaned, primed, and base-coated them last year so I might have forgotten.

I guess I'm not following with where the flash problem is. Are you afraid of losing the ribbed details (the grilles) on either side of the "spine" on the top of the saucer?

That bird on the Romulan is great. I wish I could freehand details like that, but I'm stuck with decals for a decent look.

The metal Fed DNG (Improved/Refitted Dreadnought) is a fairly recent mold (and is used for the DNH too, and was the basis for the BB saucer). I'm assuming you're not talking about the plastic DN, cause those were all molded years and years ago and have been s-l-o-w-l-y been getting sold off ever since.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:32 pm
by Savedfromwhat
Scoutdad: That was freehanded, but I cheated and drew an outline on there with a very fine ink pen. I was suprised at the outcome because I am a horrible painter lol.

DJ: Yes I am afraid of losing the ribbing at the top. There are "clumps" of pewter buildup on both sides, I am not sure if it will show up well in a pick but I will give it a shot before church this morning. Also is the dradnought in Squadron Box 1 the same as the DNG, if so it seems lopsided.

Also thanks for the kind words :D

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:50 pm
by Savedfromwhat
here is the pic. Not the best view (Using my camera phone lawl) but I think you should be able to see it.

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:19 am
by Scoutdad
That is quite a bit worse than the flash typically seen on a Federation NCL. Was that one possibly from a "factory seconds" bag?

You're going to have to be very careful removing that excess material or you will indeed lose some of the ribbing in the impulse engine details. You can re-carve any lost detail with a fine Exact-O blade - but it would be easier to not have to do so.

Good luck.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:55 am
by mjwest
The biggest thing is that if you believe you have received a defective miniature (which does happen), then please contact Leanna (at the sales@s... email). She will help make it right. Steve may want to better understand the problem, too, but from everything I have seen talked about on the forums shows that ADB will try to make it right.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:46 am
by Savedfromwhat
I got 4 that look exactly like that in a border box :( I would rather not waste ADB's money returning them. (I got a rotary tool today :) I am going to try and get it out myself. Worst comes to worst and they will look a little funky. No Biggie. I was just hoping this was an issue you may have faced before.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:49 am
by djdood
I would go ahead and contact ADB anyways. You have a picture to prove that you have a *real* dud (and four of them apparently). I've never seen flash there on an NCL, and that is going to be really hard to remove without ruining the mini.

I'm sure they'll replace them, and they will want to. Bad product always gets corrected by ADB (on the rare occasions it sneaks out).

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:45 am
by Starfury
The few NCL/CA that I have all look like that. I've had to pretty much use a rotary tool to clean them up. I figure if I'm going to lose detail then I'll use the tool to totally "fix" the area so any lost detail is the same on both sides.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:53 am
by pinecone
djdood wrote:I would go ahead and contact ADB anyways. You have a picture to prove that you have a *real* dud (and four of them apparently). I've never seen flash there on an NCL, and that is going to be really hard to remove without ruining the mini.

I'm sure they'll replace them, and they will want to. Bad product always gets corrected by ADB (on the rare occasions it sneaks out).
Would that count on a badly laminated ship card from klingon border I bought a year ago and have already used and can't erase the writing because it's not laminated?

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:11 pm
by mjwest
pinecone wrote:
djdood wrote:Bad product always gets corrected by ADB (on the rare occasions it sneaks out).
Would that count on a badly laminated ship card from klingon border I bought a year ago and have already used and can't erase the writing because it's not laminated?
Yes. Please contact Leanna at sales@starf...

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:41 pm
by pinecone
okay, thanks! (Time for a new patrol corvette :mrgreen: )