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Suicide shuttles

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:38 am
by storeylf
I expect I already know the answer to this, but then again I have had some rule surprises before.

Are suicide shuttles considered shuttles, seeking weapons or both for tractor purposes?

The particular thing I was pondering was tractoring your own suicide shuttle for the extra speed. You can't tractor your own seeking weapons (well no more than momentarily before they are removed) and shuttles blow up at over 3 hexes per impulse.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:04 am
by Kang
They're both seeking weapons and shuttles. So death-dragging will still kill them and in any case tractoring the shuttle will make it go inert as a seeking weapon. That's what the rule is there to prevent, I reckon.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:49 am
by storeylf
I'm aware of the dragging shuttle restriction and tractor seeker restriction, however I haven't my rule book in front of me and I may be the midde of a game when I think about it again, hence the question (in case it was ambigous in the rule book when I do check it).

I was also assuming what you just said is correct, but I can't remember the specific rule for Suicide Shuttles of the top of my head and whether they are actually covered by both restrictions.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:21 pm
by Scoutdad
(4F1) Types of seeking weapons:
(4F1c) Suicide Shuttles

Tractor Beams:
(5D5s) Seeking Weapons: If you tractor a seeking weapon which you (or an allied ship) lkuanched, it becomes inert and is removed from the board...
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Shuttlecraft:
(5H)
(5H6) Suicide Shuttles
since a subsection of shuttlecraft rules, suicide shuttles are still under all (5H) restrictions, as well as (4F) restrictions.

Tractor Beams:
(5D5) Tractoring Objects:
...Note thatthis procedure is used to land shuttles, but if the ship moves faster than speed 16 while holding a shuttle in a tractor beam, the shuttle is destroyed.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:05 pm
by mjwest
'dad hit the relevant rules points.

The base idea is that suicide shuttles are under the restrictions of BOTH seeking weapons and shuttles.