Federation Commander

Is the range penalty for cloaked ships "Double and add 4" as read in 5P3b example or is the range penalty for cloaked ships "add 4" as read in 5P3c?

I didn't see anything about the effective range being doubled anywhere but there is a 4 hex penalty. Perhaps you misunderstood that the ship receives only 1/2 damage? I'm going off of the Revision 6 rulebook.

Masat, can you determine what version of the rules you have?

first page of rulebook reads "This is a FIFTH EDITION rulebook"

5P3b Fade: Paragraph 3 headed by "Example:". Last sentence. A nearby Federation ship could have fired phasers without penalty during the Direct Fire Phase of Impulse #3 (before he knew the Romulan would cloak), or with the +4 penalty during Impulse #4 (the fade-out period) or with the "Double and add four" penalty during Impulse #5 (when the ship is fully cloaked)

I hope this helps explains the place I am reading.

That was a typo that lasted through version five of the rulebook. It was corrected in version six.

There is no "double".

Bottom line, when you are fully cloaked, enemies receive a 4 hex range penalty when they fire on you, plus any damage done to you is cut in half.

leathernsteel wrote:Bottom line, when you are fully cloaked, enemies receive a 4 hex range penalty when they fire on you, plus any damage done to you is cut in half.

Note that the +4 range adjusts the 'true range' of the ship. Which means that overloaded weapons with a max range of 8 (ie: photons, distrupters, hellbores) cannot be fired at a cloaked ship at range 5+

This is a VERY useful fact that you can take advantage of easily with proper maneuver and timing.

I can't wait to try this stuff out when I get Romulan Border!

duxvolantis wrote: Note that the +4 range adjusts the 'true range' of the ship. Which means that overloaded weapons with a max range of 8 (ie: photons, distrupters, hellbores) cannot be fired at a cloaked ship at range 5+

This is a VERY useful fact that you can take advantage of easily with proper maneuver and timing.

True range is probably not entirely the right term, if I remember correct the +4 range does not push a ship actually 1 hex away to 5 hexes away for the purposes of a PPD myopic zone.

storeylf wrote:

duxvolantis wrote: Note that the +4 range adjusts the 'true range' of the ship. Which means that overloaded weapons with a max range of 8 (ie: photons, distrupters, hellbores) cannot be fired at a cloaked ship at range 5+

This is a VERY useful fact that you can take advantage of easily with proper maneuver and timing.

True range is probably not entirely the right term, if I remember correct the +4 range does not push a ship actually 1 hex away to 5 hexes away for the purposes of a PPD myopic zone.

A better term would be 'effective range' or something like that.

leathernsteel wrote:I can't wait to try this stuff out when I get Romulan Border!

In the meantime, you can always try it with Orion ships

That's a good point, Kang. I'm still going to get Romulan Border though

Too bloomin' right, mate! An excellent product.