What is in the Squadron Boxes and what is in the Fleet Boxes

Post by **Jean** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:36 pm

Ok, this is what I got from Matthew Sprange.

Star Fleet Box Sets

Squadron Box #1, The Federation, $29.99 30002
Frigate
Light Cruiser
Dreadnought
Heavy Cruiser
Battlecruiser

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Squadron Box #2, Klingons, $29.99 30003
C8 Dreadnought
D6 Heavy Cruiser
D7 Battlecruiser
C7 Heavy Cruiser
F5 Frigate

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Squadron Box #9, Romulans, $29.99 30004
Condor
SkyHawk
BattleHawk
Kestral KR (Klingon D6 Heavy Cruiser)
War Eagle

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Squadron Box #9A, Cloaked Romulans, $39.99 30005
Cloaked Condor
Cloaked SkyHawk
Cloaked Battle Hawk
Cloaked Kestral KR (Klingon D6 Heavy Cruiser)
Cloaked War Eagle

Federation Fleet Box Set, $99.99 30006
Mini Rulebook
Frigate x2
Light Cruiser x2
Battle Frigate
Strike Cruiser
Dreadnought
Heavy Cruiser x2
Battlecruiser
Fast Cruiser
New Fast Cruiser
New Heavy Cruiser
New Light Cruiser
War Destroyer
Police Cutter
Shuttles x6

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Klingon Fleet Box Set, $99.99 30007
Mini Rulebook
C8 Dreadnought
D6 Heavy Cruiser x2
D7 Battlecruiser x2
C7 Heavy Cruiser x2
F5 Frigate x3
D5W Heavy Cruiser
FD7 Fast Cruiser
E4 Light Frigate x2
D5 War Cruiser x2
Shuttles x6

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Romulan Fleet Box Set Mini Rulebook, $99.99 30008
Condor
SkyHawk
Battle Hawk x3
Kestral KR (Klingon D6 Heavy Cruiser)
War Eagle
FireHawk
SparrowHawk
King Eagle
FastHawk
RoyalHawk
KF5R (Klingon F5 Frigate)
KC9R (Klingon C8 Dreadnought)
Snipe x2
Shuttles x6

So now you know what is going to be in the various boxes. Matthew said that the pre-orders will go up on Mongoose's website on Thursday.

Please note this list is preliminary and may change.

Sgt_G · Post by **Sgt_G** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:09 pm

I presume that someday we'll be able to buy single minis, yes? I would like to get a couple extra Police Cutters, for example.

jmt · Post by **jmt** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:49 am

This is as cool as getting the Wish Book when I was a kid! Now to go find some crayons and make out my Christmas list for my wife.

Post by **Steve Cole** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:20 pm

Mongoose says that the $14.95 blister packs are one ship each except that some of the smallest ships (frigates) are two ships for that price.

Mongoose believes in having a fixed price point for all blisters; ADB calculates the price of blisters individually. Both systems have good and bad points.

Mostly, the Mongoose theory is that the squadron boxes and fleet boxes are pretty cool deals and that you should just buy those. They sell few blisters, and the high cost of manual labor to pack them and handle small orders means they cannot afford to sell them for less. (They would not break even on a CA at a price below $13 and need some profit after all.)

ADB sells most of its ships as blisters and with a higher volume (and a different philosphy) we price each ship by its cost.

Post by **Jean** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:00 pm

Matthew sent us the final final list of the Fleet Boxes and blister packs today.

FEDERATION FLEET BOX SET
* Frigate x3
* Light Cruiser x2
* Battle Frigate x2
* Strike Cruiser
* Dreadnought
* Heavy Cruiser x2
* Battlecruiser x2
* Fast Cruiser
* Police Cutter x2
* Shuttles x6
* Pocket Rulebook

KLINGON FLEET BOX SET
* C8 Dreadnought
* D6 Heavy Cruiser x2
* D7 Battlecruiser x2
* C7 Heavy Cruiser x2
* F5 Frigate x3
* D5W Heavy Cruiser
* FD7 Fast Cruiser
* E4 Light Frigate x2
* D5 War Cruiser x2
* Shuttles x6
* Pocket Rulebook

ROMULAN FLEET BOX SET
* Condor
* SkyHawk
* BattleHawk x3
* Kestral KR (This is the same model as the Klingon D6 Heavy Cruiser)
* War Eagle x2
* FireHawk
* SparrowHawk
* King Eagle
* FastHawk
* KF5R (This is the same model as the Klingon F5 Frigate)
* Snipe x3
* Shuttles x6
* Pocket Rulebook

BLISTERS
All blisters contain one ship, except for the following;

Federation Battle Frigates x 2
Federation Frigates x 2
Federation Police Cutters x 2
Klingon E4 Light Frigates x 2
Klingon F5 Frigates x 2
Romulan KF5R Destroyers x 2
Romulan Snipe Battle Frigates x 2
Romulan SkyHawk Destroyers x 2
Romulan Battle Hawks x 2
Shuttles x 6

Valander · Post by **Valander** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:35 pm

I have to admit that I liked the original listings for the fleet boxes better, but that's likely because I just wanted more variety. I'm sure the new boxes are more "playable" fleets, but now that means I'll wind up with more duplicates than I originally wanted, and will have to order more blisters (unless they put in some kind of "reinforcement pack" that doesn't duplicate stuff from the fleet boxes).

Burning Chrome · Post by **Burning Chrome** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:53 pm

I wish we could pick what ships we wanted for the boxed sets.

Each set being a certain number of ships for specific price.

For example, I'd rather have a C8, D7, FD7, D6, and F5 for my Squadron Box for $29.99; I like the C7 (great ship) but would rather have the FD7.

I'm sure this would probably be more of a PITA than ADB or Mongoose would rather deal with, but would be a cool option.

The ability to order a C8, D6, D5, 2 F5s and 2 F4s for the same cost as the original Squadron Box set ($29.99) would be great...especially as variants are (hopefully) produced.

Hell, add an additional $5.00 PITA...er...processing fee or something and I'd still go for it.

A C8 cost as much as two E4s correct?

A 5-ship bargain box perhaps?

Post by **Steve Cole** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:50 pm

The problem with "pick the ships you want" is the hand labor to do that. If you wanted "pick my five ships" the box would cost $70 due to the hand labor and packaging. Easier to just buy the blisters.

djdood · Post by **djdood** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:15 pm

Once the game has been out for 6 months or so, there will probably be some trading activity going. I know I'll probably end up with dreadnoughts and fast cruiser duplicates and will be looking to trade them out for additional small ships, etc. That's how the metal mini community is and has been for ages.

Scoutdad · Post by **Scoutdad** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:19 pm

nice addition to the signature line there, Will

Burning Chrome · Post by **Burning Chrome** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:21 pm

So my idea of an extra 5-bucks to cover the cost just doesn't cut it...dang.

Ok, then how about just substituting a FD7 for a C7 when I order the Klingon Squadron box and CL44 in a few days?

< J O K E !>

I realized it would be a pain to do, but not a $40.00+ pain.

How about pick 5 blisters for $50.00 or something similar?

I'm guessing future variants like a D6D or D6M, D7D will be dependent on how well the initial minis sell?

Will the B10 cost 14.99?

Will it fit in a standard blister?

What other questions can I ask that aren't completely on topic?

Who likes cheese?

I know I'll will not be able to stop with just Klingons. After all we need someone to blow away...and I have to say, the Kzinti and Gorn ships really look good when painted.

Thanks for the info Steve.

And it figures djdood brings up a good point to completely invalidate my rantings while I was typing in addition to being interrupted by several phone calls prior to clicking the submit button!

djdood · Post by **djdood** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:41 pm

@ Burning Chrome - I disrupt. It's what I do...

@ Tony - I couldn't let Xander's fine work go unused. I'm quite flattered by the whole thing, actually.

Aabh · Post by **Aabh** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:28 pm

Is the NCA coming out in Blister at some point down the road? I'm presuming that the CA in blister is the standard CA.

At this moment it looks like the only way to get 1 NCA is to buy the $100 set, is that correct? (I intend to buy one anyway... but I don't know if I can buy 2 or 3 @ $100 apiece and still remain married

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Scoutdad · Post by **Scoutdad** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:50 pm

Aabh wrote:Is the NCA coming out in Blister at some point down the road? I'm presuming that the CA in blister is the standard CA.

At this moment it looks like the only way to get 1 NCA is to buy the $100 set, is that correct? (I intend to buy one anyway... but I don't know if I can buy 2 or 3 @ $100 apiece and still remain married )

The NCA is no longer in the $100 fleet box.
In fact, it's not (at this very moment in space and time) even possible to order or pre-order one.
But when it is available, you will be able to order it in individual blister packs.

djdood · Post by **djdood** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:22 pm

It wouldn't shock me to see a second Fed fleet box, with a mix including the "war" era ships and some of the few not done yet (BB, HDW) down the road, someday, if we clamor for it and those "missing" ships get added to ACTA. At the minimum, those ships will show up due to the plan to match everything in Starline 2400.

I am quite pleased with the ships in the fleet boxes as they stand right now, especially the Fed box. It's a good mix of large and small hulls and allows for a much easier time to meet point-value targets for scenarios.