Looking through old posts, Leanna needs to look into the wish list idea.

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 - 05:48 pm: Edit

I suggest that a separate proposal topic be established for the Fralli. I know they are part of the Federation, but there have been a number of proposals for Fralli operated ships (powerista, the national guard Fralli destroyer thing that combined a fed FF saucer with a POL rear hull, and recently, a VT variant for Fralli Police.)

It seems there is interest in the poor wee Fralli.

Perhaps a R module number that is not in use such as R 097. In the Ship proposals topic? If this is acceptable, then just coping or moving the last few posts in the Flower Corvette VT topic would serve to continue the discussion.

Jeff Wile

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 10:28 am: Edit

Done

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Sunday, September 29, 2019 - 11:31 am: Edit

In the New Product Development topic, there are two threads that start with "Alternate time line:"

Since the topic is getting larger, I would recommend that all "Alternate Time Lines:" be collected in a single folder. As time goes forward, one might expect that other such time lines will get proposed or "discovered."

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, September 29, 2019 - 09:14 pm: Edit

No, we need each alternate line separately. Putting them all in one would produce a muddle.

By John Williams (Johndw) on Friday, December 20, 2019 - 08:16 am: Edit

Not sure if this is just the browsers I use, or if the site needs updated, or if this is by design, or if there's only the six factions in federation commander (I don't play so I don't know), but, on what I think is the "main page" for federation commander, http://www.starfleetgames.com/federation/ , how it says to "click the emblems above to visit each empire", there are only emblems for kzinti, gorn, federation, klingon, romulan, and orion.

I do not see emblems for Lyran, ISC, Tholian, WYN, or Hydran.

But, when I google those factions,
starfleetgames.com/federation/hydran.shtml
starfleetgames.com/federation/lyran.shtml
starfleetgames.com/federation/interstellarconcordium.shtml
starfleetgames.com/federation/wynstarcluster.shtm
starfleetgames.com/federation/tholian.shtml

All of these pages seem to work and seem legit, but like I said, there's no icon for them popping up in my browser near the top of the page for these factions.

I've tried Opera, Chrome, Firefox, Edge, they all seem to have the same problem.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, December 20, 2019 - 09:28 am: Edit

It isn't a problem. We decided years ago to just put those six symbols because they made a nice picture. To put all of the others would just be too crowded. Nothing needs to be fixed.

By John Williams (Johndw) on Friday, December 20, 2019 - 10:25 am: Edit

Okay, then from a design perspective I would suggest a new approach/design because it seems incomplete/unfinished/lazy/confusing from the perspective of people who might honestly want to find out more and want to be able to navigate that information.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, December 20, 2019 - 11:15 am: Edit

I see no need to change what has worked just fine for ten years with only one person even noticing.

It is a zero-sum game. If we took time to fix this non-problem there would be less time to deal with actual issues.

By Kosta Michalopoulos (Kosmic) on Friday, June 26, 2020 - 01:05 pm: Edit

Is it time to (safely) reopen the Disasters topic?

Deleted. No commentary on Covid-19 in this topic, either.

Jean
WebMom

By Jean Sexton Beddow (Jsexton) on Friday, June 26, 2020 - 02:59 pm: Edit

Kosta, no. I'm not going to have to be monitoring that topic 24/7 because it WILL get into politics and I will end up suspending people.

Jean
WebMom

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Monday, February 21, 2022 - 06:29 pm: Edit

Just a thought, but most empires have a military Survey design, (some have more than one type...)

The Civilian section R 1.0 is where most of the Civilian ships are located. There is a civilian survey ship, that if I recall correctly is used to survey planets inside of the various empires. The point is Civilians would be interested in new resources to exploit, even if those resources are not inside of their own empires territory.

Could we have a topic to explore an improved civilian Survey ship design not based on a slow freighter?

Several justifications could be considered:

1) Orion Merchants are known to be aggressive in seeking new markets, wouldn’t they be equally aggressive looking for new resources to exploit? Secondly, would the Orions Merchants even care who owns the resources?
2) merchants outside of the Federation (examples such as the various Romulan great Houses, Klingons, Kzinti, most especially Hydrans, etc.) would need the capabilities of GSC or SR ships. Again, this is for surveys outside of the empires borders.
3) some Empires have off map areas (see Federation and Empire maps.) while sending a survey ship based on a military hull would be a violation of neutral zone treaties, a civilian ship design would (barely) fit under civilian exemptions.

To start the discussions, is it possible to design a generic Survey Ship for Rule 1.0?,

By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Monday, February 21, 2022 - 06:55 pm: Edit

JSW, are you suggesting a survey version of the Armed Freighters or just putting the engines of the armed freighters on the survey ships?

By A David Merritt (Adm) on Monday, February 21, 2022 - 09:08 pm: Edit

I'm thinking a Free/Prime trader variant.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, February 21, 2022 - 10:02 pm: Edit

I thought we already had a science/survey version of the Free Trader. It's mentioned with deck plans in the PD books.

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Monday, February 21, 2022 - 11:38 pm: Edit

Petrick has for a very long time (decades) pointed out that a Free Trader (and every size class 4 hull that had been proposed as a survey ship) is too small to compete with large survey ships(the Federation GSC being cited as the best in class,) other empires survey ships based on CA type hulls being the standard that needs to be reached.

All I am suggesting is a topic to discuss if the civilian sector of theAlpha octant needs a Civilian version of the GSC or (in other empires) SR class vessels.

The existing small freighter variant survey ship is very slow (obviously because of it using small freighter engines)

To be honest, I thought the free trader variant survey ship had been rejected.

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Monday, February 21, 2022 - 11:55 pm: Edit

Quote: The existing small freighter variant survey ship is very slow (obviously because of it using small freighter engines).

Which in my mind means it's best suited for a long-term mapping of a new-found planet. You park in orbit for weeks or months to survey everything to figure out where the best places to build settlements are.


Garth L. Getgen

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 - 07:01 am: Edit

Which is fine in the territory of the empire that owns the freighter doing the surveying.

What to do about the confused situation during the trade wars era when the various empires retreated from the boarders in place during the General War?

No standing military patrols as bases in the trade zone areas have been dismantled.

Civilians are able to operate in the wider trade zones, including the former neutral zones. Lots of new hexes to survey.

Not as safe as when the navy was there doing its job to defend the empire.

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 - 12:33 pm: Edit

Well, yes, you do have to evaluate the risks involved, but freighter-based survey ships will free up the GSC to go hunt down more planets that need detailed mapping.


Garth L. Getgen

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 - 01:14 pm: Edit

And another thing.

Freighter based hull survey ships are a cheap conversion on a (dare I say it in this context...) cookie cutter generic plan.

The assumption being that it is a low cost and effective solution.

For early, middle and General War era time periods that is the widely accepted premise.

Back when 30% to 75%of an empires populated areas were clustered near the home world, it is clearly the best economic solution.

The question is, with the empires borders retreating from the neutral zones, and the trade areas expanding to two (or more) provinces wide, is it still the best solution during the Trade wars era?

And, if it is not the best solution, what design would better serve the various empires?

By Jean Sexton Beddow (Jsexton) on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 - 05:39 pm: Edit

Folks, what exactly does this discussion have to do with the website?

Jean
WebMom

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 - 05:52 pm: Edit

Jean, how about this?

“ Could we have a topic to explore an improved civilian Survey ship design not based on a slow freighter? ”

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 - 07:41 pm: Edit

Sorry, Jean. I didn't notice which topic the thread was in when I replied. I blame Jeff W. ;-)


Garth L. Getgen

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 - 08:11 pm: Edit

Yeah, I get that.

A LOT.

Its okay.

I try to give as good as I get.

By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Friday, January 27, 2023 - 11:57 am: Edit

The link http://www.starfleetgames.com/federation/Newsletter/August_2008

returns a 404 File Not found error. Is there no August newsletter?