| By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Saturday, September 24, 2022 - 10:47 pm: Edit |
SVC:
It was not my intention to deploy a flotilla (six hulls) of skiffs.
The proposal calls for the ability to Repair ONE damaged skiff.
It does not have mech links or any capacity in the hanger (which normally has admin shuttles) to house any skiffs other than provide a minimal repair capacity for the ONE skiff mentioned.
Any skiffs present would have to come from some where else (ideally an operations base?)
I did use the word assigned, but I meant that they would be assigned as a patrol of the planet and the barge/orbital base.
I apologize for not making it clear.
The intent is to have a support base able to maintain the Def Sats. And yes, I thought a skiff or a modular courier could aid in possible defense.
| By Mike Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Sunday, September 25, 2022 - 12:06 pm: Edit |
IIRC in the tables there is a "Cargo points" value for a pf
| By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Sunday, September 25, 2022 - 01:06 pm: Edit |
The only ones that come immediately to mind, Mike, are ones that say a PF occupies as much space as 125 drones when it's packed up aboard a freighter and the equivalent to 250 drones when in a flight condition.
Do those numbers sound familiar?
| By Mike Dowd (Mike_Dowd) on Sunday, September 25, 2022 - 05:47 pm: Edit |
Jeff Wile:
"The intent is to have a support base able to maintain the Def Sats."
I had always believed that a SAMS would be adequate for this purpose. If so, no need to invent something new.
| By Mike Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Monday, September 26, 2022 - 07:37 am: Edit |
Jeff. Yep. So an Int takes up 100/200?
| By Mike West (Mjwest) on Monday, September 26, 2022 - 11:42 am: Edit |
Re: Cargo points
The relevant rule is Annex #7K: Cargo Space Points. It is in Module G3, but a relevant part of that Annex is in Module K.
And, yes, the cargo points of an "interceptor stored as cargo" is 100, and that of a "PF stored as cargo" is 125.
And, yes, the cargo points for being "ready for flight" is double that (200 and 250, respectively), that is pretty irrelevant as you cannot have an interceptor or PF "ready for flight" in a cargo hold. It must instead be "on a mech link or internal docking facility". I assume an appropriate landing pad on a ground base also qualifies. But, regardless, it can't be in a cargo bay of any sort, so the amount of cargo points they take up becomes fairly irrelevant.
| By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Monday, September 26, 2022 - 02:21 pm: Edit |
Maintaining DefSats is not something you need a skiff for. See the article on establishing a colony. You can place the defsats into their orbits with a shuttle (I admit that it is not covered very well). If you need to rearm drone armed defsats you only need an admin shuttle. If the defsat needs "extensive repair" (say it has taken 24 of its 25 damage points), a shuttle can recover a defsat and land at a maintenance facility on the planet/moon.
| By Randy Green (Hollywood750) on Monday, September 26, 2022 - 04:36 pm: Edit |
Or Elon the 14th can just launch another one... 
| By Joseph Jackson (Bonneville) on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 - 05:49 pm: Edit |
Say as long as you brought it up, where might one find that article on colonization. Sounds like terribly interesting reading.
| By Tim Longacre (Timl) on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 - 08:47 pm: Edit |
Joseph, would this be what you're looking for?
http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sft/colony_evolution.htm
| By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 - 09:22 am: Edit |
Steve petrick, the situation described above was for an orbital pod where there is not yet a colony set up on the planet, but which there are valuable resources that could be exploited, Or stolen...)
The Def Sats are there to protect the resources until suchtime as a colony can be established.
The pod, (as was stated earlier) has a shuttle bay with shuttles .
The skiff was intended as a reinforcement.
The pod shuttles are available to maintain the Def Sats.
Mike Dowd:
SAMs are not deployed to empty worlds. In this case, there are not any people or trade that would justify a SAMs. (Same argument applies to Commercial Platforms.)
| By Joseph Jackson (Bonneville) on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 - 10:10 am: Edit |
Yes, Tim. That is it. Thank you.
| By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 - 04:36 pm: Edit |
Jeff Wile:
I am afraid (really) that any reasonable study of the situation, and reading the article which covers the details more or less, makes the proposal unlikely. And lacking positional stabilizers the pod simply becomes something the Orions steal when the fleet is not in residence.
| By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Friday, September 30, 2022 - 03:36 pm: Edit |
A topic should probably be started for the establishment of colonies. It has beeen stated that the most difficult thing to move around is population. Take a look at that situation. If you start with a cruise liner, that is not a large population base to start with. So ask yourself how many people are really in this colony you are starting. Remember that the background we are working from showed us many so called colonies with only a handful of colonists (less than 30 adults, some even smaller). If you are going to have DefSats, they need to be monitored (does you no good if the DefSats can detect a cruiser if there is no one to tell, and who is going to repair or rearm them?). And let's not forget you are delivering livestock, and fodder for the animals as well as the people. And security is a concern because of pirates (who may turn off your DefSats before their ship comes raiding). I could go on.
| By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Monday, May 01, 2023 - 04:26 pm: Edit |
If this has been brought up before, I do apologize for rehashing, but earlier today, I was thinking about using a pair of Hellions to add Hellbore capacity to a RNX and the thought of how vulnerable Gunboats are in the X-era made me wonder...
Could the rules for "Remote Controlled Fighters" (J15.0) be adapted for Gunboats in the X-tech era?
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