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The Seltorian "Hive Ship" (Battlewagon) was destroyed by the ISC, no published scenario, but it is part of the history of the Seltorian Tribunal in this galaxy. The ISC were not so passive in dealing with the Seltorians, but felt that the Tholians were not the problem in the ISC's search for 'peace'. The remaining Seltorian ships were either exterminated by the Klingons (who did an analysis of the Selorians and realized what a threat they were), a final assault on a Tholian colony (scenario "Final Infestation"), or were captured and turned over to the WYN as a "peace offering".

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 - 03:31 pm: Edit

Well, I did say it was "whimsical" and "historically implausible". It wasn't my intention to suggest this as an actual use for the Battlewagon, merely to point out that the Seltorians had the technological capability.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 - 03:36 pm: Edit

The Tholian Holdfast is well known as the most densely defended part of space. I suspect the Andros decided to destroy them "later".

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 - 04:25 pm: Edit

Yes, of course WE know that, but who told the Andros?

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 - 06:44 pm: Edit

They probably figured it out themselves ... the hard way.


Garth L. Getgen

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 - 07:50 pm: Edit

The destruction of the Seltorian Hive Ship Burning Torch of Vengeance was covered by the (SH246.0) Into the Hive scenario from Module X1R.

Perhaps, one day, there might be an opportunity to delve more deeply into the ISC's intervention against the Seltorians at the Federation and Empire scale.

On a side note: perhaps it might be possible for the Seltorians to get a PF tender or battle control ship variant of their "three-boom" light dreadnought design here?

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In terms of SSDs for a would-be Module K2:

I'm fairly sure that I've suggested this... somewhere before, but a dedicated SSD for the "REDHawk" (a DemonHawk variant with a pair of SparrowHawk-E modules and a single SkyHawk-C module) would be an interesting way for them to approach the anti-RTN role here. In alternate timelines where the DemonHawk was chosen as the "default" Hawk-series dreadnought in place of the Condor, at least.

Also, perhaps some dedicated PF tender SSDs for various empires' heavy war destroyers, as well as for the Federation DLM? (In the latter instance, this might serve as the "dark future" iteration of a Star Lion-related proposal I had posted a while back.)

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 - 09:58 pm: Edit

Note that the SDS is a battleship hull, the SPS is a dreadnought hull …

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 - 11:15 pm: Edit

Stewart,

You're right. I was going from memory and had mixed up the terms. I meant "SPS" rather than "SDS".