Old R14 topic from 2010

Star Fleet Universe Discussion Board: Star Fleet Battles: New Product Development: Module R13 Ships With ZING!: Tranche One: Old R14 topic from 2010
By George Duffy (Sentinal) on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 08:20 pm: Edit

OFFICIAL MENTION OF SHIP IN ANOTHER TOPIC.
#########################################
Improved Neo-Tholian Command Modules
SFB; PROPOSALS BOARD; SHIPS; Improved Heavy Neo-Tholian Ships
George Duffy, August 23 2008
Race: Tholian
Time: Y178+
Type: Police cutter / Command Module
Hull: Police cutter
General outline of idea: Police Cutters replacing command modules of Neo-Tholian ships
#########################################
PER SVC DIRECTIVE, COMMENTS ON THIS SHIP
SHOULD GO IN ITS OWN TOPIC, NOT THIS ONE.

By John Wyszynski (Starsabre) on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 04:20 pm: Edit

OFFICIAL MENTION OF SHIP IN ANOTHER TOPIC.
#########################################
Star Fleet Universe Discussion Board: Star Fleet Battles: SFB Proposals Board: New Ships: R03: KLINGON PROPOSALS: Klingon D6GP Ground Assault Tender
Who proposed it, and when: John Wyszynski, 7 October 2009
Race: Klingon
Time: Late General War (About 2 years after PF deployment.)
Type: D6GP
Hull: D6
General outline of idea: Frontline ship built to use ground assault gunboats.
#########################################
PER SVC DIRECTIVE, COMMENTS ON THIS SHIP
SHOULD GO IN ITS OWN TOPIC, NOT THIS ONE.

By Tos Crawford (Tos) on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 11:06 pm: Edit

OFFICIAL MENTION OF SHIP IN ANOTHER TOPIC.
#########################################
Rom Eagle Upgrade
SFU: SFB PROPOSAL BOARD: New Ships: R04: Romulan Proposals: New Romulans
http://www.starfleetgames.com/discus/messages/12031/12653.html?1138123456

Who proposed it, and when: Tos Crawford, January 21, 2006/2002
Race: ROM
Time: Y182
Type: CA/DD/FF
Hull: Upgrade WE/BH/SN
General outline of idea:
After X-Tech, swap out the left over engines from a King Eagle onto a War Eagle, swap the War Eagle engines onto a Battlehawk, swap the Battlehawk engines onto Snipe; apply XP refits.
#########################################

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 09:30 am: Edit

Could there be room at the R12 inn for the two M81 Pirate ships from CL40, or the Lyran Royal Panther BCE from CL39?


Also:

OFFICIAL MENTION OF SHIP IN ANOTHER TOPIC.
#########################################
Seltorian Lair Ship
SFU: SFB PROPOSAL BOARD: New Ships: R15: Seltorian Proposals: Seltorian Lair Ship
http://www.starfleetgames.com/discus/messages/12031/20955.html?1257272897

Who proposed it, and when: Gary Carney, July 28, 2008 - 03:23 pm
Race: Seltorian
Time: HG
Type: Mobile command/support unit
Hull: Similar to (but smaller than) the Hive and Nest ship
General outline of idea:
A 4-bay (2 SC3, 2 SC 4) factory ship for the Seltorians, for use in anti-piracy and regional policing roles in areas where a Hive or Nest Ship (which, according to FC:BA, were used prior to the Revolt as part of the Seltorian enforcement of the Tholian Will) would be considered an unwarranted expense.
#########################################

OFFICIAL MENTION OF SHIP IN ANOTHER TOPIC.
#########################################
Seltorian Pocket Battlewagon
SFU: SFB PROPOSAL BOARD: New Ships: R15: Seltorian Proposals: Seltorian Lair Ship
http://www.starfleetgames.com/discus/messages/12031/20955.html?1257272897

Who proposed it, and when: Gary Carney, July 28, 2008 - 03:23 pm
Race: Seltorian
Time: HG
Type: Light anti-Tholian siege engine
Hull: Same as Lair Ship
General outline of idea:
A modification of the Lair Ship design, replacing the hangar bays with web breakers and other systems - for use during the Revolt against Tholian bases and Dyson Spheres.
#########################################

OFFICIAL MENTION OF SHIP IN ANOTHER TOPIC.
#########################################
Andromedan Reconnaissance Viper
SFU: SFB PROPOSAL BOARD: New Ships: R10: Andromedan Proposals: Reconnaissance Viper
http://www.starfleetgames.com/discus/messages/12031/23426.html?1255047672

Who proposed it, and when: Gary Carney, July 28, 2008 - 04:51 pm
Race: Andromedan
Time: Y166 (Alpha and Omega Octants), Y140 (LMC)
Type: Recon vessel
Hull: Viper
General outline of idea:
A Viper modification replacing the lone TRL with a Displacement Device, usable in a similar role as the Reconnaissance Cobra during the early establishment of the RTN (in the absence of more Cobras, or perhaps when making use of Vipers not carried into combat in later years).
#########################################

OFFICIAL MENTION OF SHIP IN ANOTHER TOPIC.
#########################################
Inter-Stellar Concordium advanced technology Survey Cruiser
SFU: SFB PROPOSAL BOARD: New Ships: R13: ISC Proposals: ISC SRX
http://www.starfleetgames.com/discus/messages/12031/24725.html?1265593111

Who proposed it, and when: Gary Carney, February 07, 2010 - 08:01 pm
Race: ISC
Time: Y190
Type: X-tech Survey cruiser
Hull: SR upgrade
General outline of idea:
An advanced technology upgrade of the pre-existing SR. In peacetime, the ISC (perhaps due to Q'naabian influence) would be the most likely Alpha power to follow the Federation's lead in building an SRX. In wartime, the ISC may have had an SR in dock and applied X-technology to it (akin to the R-section reasoning for the CMX seen in Module X1R) and made use of it thereafter.
#########################################

OFFICIAL MENTION OF SHIP IN ANOTHER TOPIC.
#########################################
Klingon advanced technology Diplomatic Cruiser
SFU: SFB PROPOSAL BOARD: New Ships: R03: Klingon Proposals: DXN Advanced Diplomatic Cruiser
http://www.starfleetgames.com/discus/messages/12031/23181.html?1244601819

Who proposed it, and when: Gary Carney, June 06, 2009 - 09:06 pm
Race: Klingon
Time: Y190s
Type: X-tech Diplomatic cruiser
Hull: DX variant
General outline of idea:
In keeping with the progression of diplomatic ships built and used in Klingon service, this ship would provide the Empire of the late Y190s and Y200s with a similar type of vessel (for use in Alpha, or perhaps as a means of ferrying envoys to and from the Magellanic powers after Operation Unity).
#########################################


PER SVC DIRECTIVE, COMMENTS ON THESE SHIPS
SHOULD GO IN THEIR OWN TOPICS, NOT THIS ONE.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 04:45 pm: Edit

Andromedan Reconnaissance Viper
Fed GSD destroyer version of survey ship Y140
Federation CA with GSC aft hull. No special sensors.
Federation CFS from CL27. This was a conversion from the damaged USS Eagle.
Federation CSB heavy strike cruiser, CB version of CS.
Federation DN (New Jersey)
FEDERATION Fast Frigate (FFF) and Variants
Federation Fast Strike Cruiser, CF version of CS.
Federation GVS (GSC saucer on a CVS back end).
FEDERATION Improved Heavy Cruiser (CG), has its own topic.
Federation NDD, non-X version of DDX.
Federation plasma version of BB
Federation plasma version of CA
Federation plasma version of DW
Federation plasma version of NCL
General, fleet escort (not carrier escort) variant of DW or CW (why bother since we already have carrier escorts?)
General: Alternative Romulan FCRs and theater transports
General: Area Domination Carrier (ADV), dreadnought with only 12 fighters and firepower of a DNG.
General: Civilian Mission Ships (skids stacks)
General: Fast versions of any amusing pre-war ship.
General: Fast versions of any amusing wartime ship.
General: Heavy monitors
General: larger 12-pod version of mobile base
General: More Heavy auxilaries of every type
General: More kinds of skiffs
General: Police versions of gunboats (no booster packs).
General: Various one-time attempts to invent PFTs.
General: Workboat versions of interceptors.
Gorn BDD with extended bubbles like a BCH
Gorn HDD with four plasma Fs and no S
Gorn Medium Destroyer , has its own topic.
Hydran heavy knight
HYDRAN Lord Steel Chancellor , has its own topic.
Hydran old light cruiser, middle years, between Ranger and Lancer
Hydran Rangoon mixed weaponry ship.
HYDRAN Steel Chancellor, has its own topic.
Inter-Stellar Concordium advanced technology Survey Cruiser
ISC CL (and CA?) with the SDDD/SDFF pack.
Klingon advanced technology Diplomatic Cruiser
Klingon B10H
Klingon D4D (or actually, LD4D).
Klingon D6GP, combination of commando ship and PFT, with ground assault gunboats
Klingon D8 prototype cruiser (should go to R13, not here).
Klingon DV7 (Orsini)
Klingon E3S small scout.
Kzinti armored cruiser
Kzinti CVF, mentioned in CL#26 histori article, fast raider variant of CVS
Kzinti CVL with heavy fighters.
Kzinti SRH and its evental conversion the SRP (SR based on a CV sized hull
Lyran ACS
Lyran flying tiger
Lyran NCV
Neo-Tholian Battle Cruiser.
Neo-Tholian hard-welded ships
Neo-Tholian Heavy Space Control Ship.
Neo-Tholian improved Command Modules , has its own topic.
Neo-Tholian Improved Heavy Dreadnought.
Neo-Tholian Strike Cruiser.
Orion CS
Romulan "Super Sparrowhawk". 2xS (LP/RP) 1xF (FP).
Romulan BATTLE EAGLE MEDIUM CARRIER (BEV) SFT #34
Romulan BATTLEHAWK-B DESTROYER LEADER (BHB) SFT #34
Romulan Crawford Condor-3R
Romulan Goshawk Medium Cruiser, has its own topic.
Romulan imperial eagle cruiser with plasma R, G, F, F and move cost 1.25
Romulan KING FALCON HEAVY MAULER (HFA) SFT #34
Romulan Martial Eagle, has it’s own topic
Romulan SCREECH OWL HEAVY SCOUT (HSC) SFT #34
Romulan Skyhawk with Wareagle body
Romulan SNIPE-C BATTLE FRIGATE LEADER (SNC) SFT #34
Romulan space control variant of the C9
Romulan SUU
Romulan version of G1 gunboat
Romulan version of Klingon C6 middle years DN
Romulan version of Klingon D7W, upgrade of K7Rs.
Romulan version of the C5 light dreadnought
Seltorian Lair Ship
Seltorian light raider
Seltorian hive or nest ship with particle cannons in the bays, not web breakers
Seltorian Pocket Battlewagon
Tholian DW to fill gap in Tholian ships (approx 100 BPV). Possible examples: CDW, DWVP and Jeremy's DW
Tholian old dreadnought with disruptors instead of photons.
Tholian SCS on the CVA hull.
Title: Kzinti Light Destroyer, has its own topic.
Vudar light raider
WYN fish minesweeper
WYN fish PFT
WYN mako light PFT
WYN new hull CS

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 04:46 pm: Edit

In opening this topic, I will remind you that the only
"ship proposals" posted here are

1. Ships published somewhere (CapLog, SFT) that need to really be put into a real SFB module.

2. Obvious variants that don't need much more than a reminder, not really a design discussion.

3. Notices of ships which have their own topics and are just noted here so they'll get considered.

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 07:23 pm: Edit

Romulan- sublight version of the Scout Eagle (obvious variant) for MY campaigns?

By Steven E. Ehrbar (See) on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 07:40 pm: Edit

YDNs upgraded to MY speeds to serve in the years before the DNEs were built.

MY mine warfare ships, has its own topic.

By Nick G. Blank (Nickgb) on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 08:31 pm: Edit

Some of the SFT#34 Romulan ships have been published already:

Romulan BATTLE EAGLE MEDIUM CARRIER (BEV) SFT #34 was previously published in Module J2 page 29.

Romulan SCREECH OWL HEAVY SCOUT (HSC) SFT #34 was previously published in Module R11 page 40.

I definitly want to see the others though, BATTLEHAWK-B DESTROYER LEADER, KING FALCON HEAVY MAULER, and SNIPE-C BATTLE FRIGATE LEADER.

Nick

By Scott Tenhoff (Scottt) on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 09:55 pm: Edit

Fed CFS was just done in R13.

Romulan K4F and SKR FCR's were done in R13.

Lyran NCV was in R11.

Selt Hive Ship w/ Bays w/ Particle Cannons. Unless you also want to do a smaller Nest Ship with Particle Cannon bays. Call it a Light Battle Wagon.

By Michael C. Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 02:33 pm: Edit

DW or DD based carriers. SVC suggested calling these "Jeep Carriers." Has its own topic.


F6V (F5V with the F6 conversion) Obvious variant.

Fed FBG (Commando FF with the FFB conversion) Obvious variant.

By Jon Berry (Laz_Longsmith) on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 03:33 pm: Edit

Federation Old Light Cruiser Leader - occupies the same niche as the Klingon D6C/L. This is an obvious varient that needs no design discussion.

By Joseph R Carlson (Jrc) on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 04:01 pm: Edit

OFFICIAL MENTION OF SHIP IN ANOTHER TOPIC.
#########################################
Seltorian Fast Battlewagon
SFU: SFB PROPOSAL BOARD: Other proposals: Seltorian Resurgence
Who proposed it, and when: Joe Carlson July 24, 2010
Race: Seltorian
Time: After Y188
Type: fast battlewagon
Hull: Nest ship variant
General outline of idea:
The engines of a damaged hive ship were installed on a nest ship. X-technology versions of the web breaker and particle cannons were installed in the side bays and PF modules were installed in the two rear-most bays. The ship was named the Damnation of Ragnarok.
#########################################

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 04:08 pm: Edit

It doesn't have a pre-existing thread, but the Neo-(Draco-)Tholian ship Sojourner, from the Tholians of Draco snapshot, would be an interesting choice.

(Perhaps even with an advanced technology variant, in case the Holdfast-Tholians offered to upgrade the ship during its, um, sojourn in the Alpha Octant?)

By Paul Stovell (Pauls) on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 05:00 pm: Edit

Well to throw some hats into the ring.

From ship proposals

Gorn Patrol Destroyer
Gorn Frigate Variants

By Xander Fulton (Dderidex) on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 05:29 pm: Edit

Still hoping to find a place for...

Romulan War Raptor

Essentially, a ship to fill in the gap between 100bpv and 140bpv in the 'old' series Romulan lineup; providing a proper heavy cruiser to match against the 120-125bpv heavy cruisers from the neighboring Gorn, Federation, and Tholians.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 12:18 am: Edit

Hydran Spearman Assault Cruiser.

I have an idea for a Hydran base buster unit, perhaps Y140ish, basically, take a Ranger, replace the FA/L and FA/R phasers with fusion beams and replace six fighters with APR.

The theory is that it can get close and blast a base, but in practice the scarcity of weapons on a rearm turn was a problem, as was the reduced fighter complement.

The design was (perhaps) resurrected somewhat when the Dragoon was designed (but with a standard phaser battery).

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 11:30 am: Edit

I've been thinking on Hydrans a bit lately and one unit that I've long wished I had when playing (back when) was a sort of combat escort (wouldn't call it that) based on a Lancer hull. Basically, just replace the three fusions with one hellbore and two Ph-G (FA/L + FA/R). The
I would run this ship along side of a larger command unit or BCH or DN. It's job would be off turn defense and deterant. It's hellbore would almost never be fire as part of the larger fleet/squadron salvo but would constantly be there as a threat (or as the weapon the enemy fogets about). It's primary active job would be the continuous elimination of seeking weapons using it's phasers. This ship would rarely fire on other ships except during the clean up process.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 05:42 pm: Edit

Heh, good luck getting that idea past the 'shot down automatically' stage.

By Carl-Magnus Carlsson (Hardcore) on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 05:49 pm: Edit

I have in the past proposed the Commanders Ed. Firehawk as Romulan medium cruiser (failed CA prototype actually. It has Gs not Ss:P). Question: while this didn't get much support then, has something like it been published or can I re-submit it?

By Alan W. Kerr (Awkerr) on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 11:23 pm: Edit

Loren: re lancer: 3 fus -> hellbore + 2 Ph-G

actually, another idea for this ship, that would be uniquely Hydran, would be as a "fighter leader". With nearly every ship providing some fighters, this ship could escort the fighters to a target.

This ship works as a DD since it seems to be an "oddball Knight". On the Lyran border, the HB can be used on an ESG. On the Klingon boarder, the forward Ph-Gs can knock down drones (from ships or scatterpacks). So it works "in the fleet".

If needed, the flagship can order this ship and the fighters to "take out a target". This ship tries to cover the Stingers so that they can get to the "feared range" of less than 3 hexes.

So this ship makes sense as, yet another, DD class for the Hydrans. It is somewhere between a Knight and a DE. Once battles started to *regularly* have 12+ stingers in them, there would be a need for a quasi-DE when you have a "carrier's worth" of stingers but no "true carrier" in the battle.

Administrator's Control Panel -- Board Moderators Only
Administer Page | Delete Conversation | Close Conversation | Move Conversation