Archive through November 03, 2011

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By Aaron M. Staley (Awwwdrat) on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 03:41 pm: Edit

SVC: Ah, six months now. No problem.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 03:52 pm: Edit

There was appaarently some confusion, but it was always supposed to be six months. I had a note on my desk to officially clarify that before leaving town.

No ships from CL43 or the Origins products are to be posted before 11 Jan 2012, and even then, ask first. Not sure if we want any ships posted from the secret product, and if we allow any, it will be only a few.

By Aaron M. Staley (Awwwdrat) on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 04:27 pm: Edit

Not interested in secret projects.

My priority right now is (in order of precedence): existing errors in library, Omega (which I'm having to do from scratch), Simulator, Jindarian, New Products, redo existing to conform to latest standards. It's still going to be another 3-4 months to finally get Omega done. Maybe another 3-4 after that for Simulator. I may just switch places with Jindo and Sim. Jindo will only take a few weeks maybe. Then there's R12 and other stuff that needs more work, etc.

The point is I'm too busy to worry about new stuff.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 04:57 pm: Edit

The secret project will be unveiled on the 22nd of June, the 70th anniversary of Barbarossa Day.

By Aaron M. Staley (Awwwdrat) on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 05:10 pm: Edit

Unless it's all the Omega SSDs in my e-mail inbox I'm too busy to worry about it.

By A. David Merritt (Adm) on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 09:36 pm: Edit

Hhrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmm, that is also my mother's birthday.

By Aaron M. Staley (Awwwdrat) on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 06:34 am: Edit

Romulan SBS, WBS, YBS, EBS submitted.
Jindarian CA submitted (Once in the library, check this one out folks, it's pretty cool).

By Aaron M. Staley (Awwwdrat) on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 06:44 pm: Edit

All the Drex are submitted and in Paul's inbox. Enjoy.

By Francois Lemay (Princeton) on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 10:34 pm: Edit

Just curious here.
Why have the Pels been removed from the SFBOL library ?

Cheers
Frank

By Peter Thoenen (Eol) on Wednesday, July 06, 2011 - 03:54 am: Edit

Wow, just noticed

By Aaron M. Staley (Awwwdrat) on Thursday, July 07, 2011 - 03:44 pm: Edit

Situation cleared up, Pels are restored to the library.

By Aaron M. Staley (Awwwdrat) on Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 06:30 am: Edit

Frax CVS submitted.

By Aaron M. Staley (Awwwdrat) on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 07:02 am: Edit

Singer Submitted in their entirety this morning.

By Aaron M. Staley (Awwwdrat) on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 12:30 pm: Edit

Alunda submitted.

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 05:36 am: Edit

Both added to the library

By Aaron M. Staley (Awwwdrat) on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 09:12 am: Edit

Work started on C3A:
All Adder PFs submitted.
All conjectural MWPs with WBPs and Phaser Refits submitted.
CBR-H, COB+, COB-H, GAL, ICR, and INX submitted.
All Andro Energy Modules submitted.
More will be done when possible; client update is needed for Andro fighters.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 01:25 pm: Edit

C3A has not been cleared by ADB for posting to SFBOL. Remove all C3A files and do not upload further C3A files pending approval from ADB.

We said not before 1 Nov but we also said by email that we'd let you know at some point after that time when they could be uploaded and to check with us before any were uploaded.

For clarification, wait six months and then ASK. No more autopilot "approvals".

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 02:52 pm: Edit

If there has been some confusion, sorry about that, but we want to end the practice of being surprised by uploads that the company never discussed. Sometimes there are reasons not to upload something, and the company needs a review step to see if those apply.

No more autopilot releases. Wait six months then ask us by Email if it's ok to release something.

We will try to have an in-house discussion about C3A releases later this week.

No need to delete what's there but don't release it either.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 08:36 pm: Edit

HALT.

No more SSDs are to be uploaded to SFBOL except as approved by ADB, Inc. at the time of upload.

At this point, nothing further is authorized for upload. We can discuss anything, but nothing else is to be uplaaded without approval, and as of this point, nothing further has been approved.

Some things will be, some won't be, but I am seeing WAY too many people say "Why buy the product, get it on SFBOL for free."

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 08:37 pm: Edit

And do go ahead and delete anything from C3A that was uploaded.

By Paul Scott (The_Rock) on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 09:03 pm: Edit

Does this include FCOL? If so, what is the process you want me to use? Send an email to you with the ships? Send you the FCOL definitions?

Also, does this mean that definitions that are already part of FCOL but that have errors should not be corrected without approval?

Thanks.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 09:13 pm: Edit

You aren't supposed to be uploading ships to FCOL. Paul. That was never authorized. I sent a ton of ships to FCOL and have been waiting for a request from Paul Franz for more.

Paul Franz, please immediately delete all FCOL ships which did not come from ADB.

By Xander Fulton (Dderidex) on Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 02:42 am: Edit


Quote:

but I am seeing WAY too many people say "Why buy the product, get it on SFBOL for free."




I kind of hope nobody is REALLY thinking that.

SFBOL makes a handy reference for those of us on the road more than occasionally, but...

...I mean, it's a partial SSD. That's it. The refit notes are...primitive, at best (not up to the latest ADB standard), and you lose ALL the R-section details. When did this ship exist? How many were built? What conditions existed around its usage? What were the names of the ships?

IMHO, that's the best way to combat SFBOL as any kind of 'alternative/competition' to buying the actual products. Buff up the R-sections more! Give more names, more historical details, etc. Reinforce the idea that the SSD, on its own, is only really valuable to those who already own the product and want to use the ship they already bought on the online client. Because that's all SFBOL can (and should!) offer...the raw SSD, so that those already owning the product can play online against others who have it.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 03:23 am: Edit

In the case of C3A you obviously need the rules to use ships, so you don't need to do that.

I have seen on one forum at least one case of one player suggesting sending rules (I think it was Omega) to opponents so they could use SSDs, so it's a problem at least some of the time.

The exact conversation is as follows:





Thu, 07/28/2011 - 09:53 — Saaur
Paul


Do you want JPGs of the BD SSD to refer to instead of the SFBOL version?

Thu, 07/28/2011 - 10:43 — Paul Scott
Sure

That would be great. Esp. if you also have jpgs/pdf of the relevant rules. Thanks.


Thu, 07/28/2011 - 21:41 — REitzen

I'd suggest buying the product if you really want to see the rules.


Thu, 07/28/2011 - 21:50 — Paul Scott
I'm sure you would and if it were on e23 I'd probably do it. But, I will have opponents playing these ships and if we were face to face you wouldn't be telling me "well, I have the rules but if you want to look at them you should go buy your own set." Asking for copies of the rules that my opponent ship will be using seems pretty reasonable to me.


...


Considering the person involved, yes, I'd say it is a problem.

By Aaron M. Staley (Awwwdrat) on Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 08:44 am: Edit

I ensure copyright notices are on everything I submit to Paul Franz.

Also take note, that just because I (or anyone else) "submits" something, doesn't mean it has made it into the library. Only Paul can add a ship to the library.

May I politely suggest this may be the wrong thread for this discussion?

I have had a lot of fun doing pro-bono work on the SFBOL library, but if I am to continue to be bothered by things that don't concern me, (i.e. I'm the factory worker, not the manager)then I will leave and spend my time elsewhere.Please consider this.

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