Ummmmm, welcome to U6

By Roy Steele (Emperor) on Friday, April 29, 2016 - 01:09 pm: Edit

Welcome to the Carnage!

Hey Bob Mantzel would you post how I can get a hold of you.

Jindy

Roy

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Saturday, April 30, 2016 - 09:38 pm: Edit

Gif version of map has been posted in the map topic.

By Kurt Byanski (Kurtski) on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 08:49 am: Edit

As I wrap up the initial builds and the first turn I have a couple of questions.

Bases: B11.110 indicates a maximum of six bases may be in the same tactical area (which means that a system can have only six large bases, including a commercial base, in orbit) With the limit of only three bases in U6, does the commercial base continue to count as one of these three?

TCP: B11.70 indicates a TCP can be substituted with either (CB, MB, 3xCPL) or (2xMB, 3xCPL). If the substitution is used, can the incorporated MBs be upgraded to larger bases? Are the CBs and MBs considered large bases for the 3-base limit? IF so, couldn't you build up to three SBs at a system (with 3xCPL) and get the equivalent of the TCP at the system?

Thanks,

Kurt

By Kurt Byanski (Kurtski) on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 09:59 am: Edit

Also: Is it appropriate to communicate with neighboring races prior to the completion of the first turn?

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 11:42 am: Edit

I'd assume that anything that is substituted for a TCB counts as that base:
a) CB/MB/3xCPL or the like == TCB in terms of base "slots"
b) things substituted for a TCB have to be "as is". Remember that the TCB/CB are civilian units, not military ones, while a BS/BATS/... is a military unit. Once could argue for an upgrade path of course, to which (speaking as myself), I'd argue that even if it is built to military specs, it has to operate under the civilian limitations (i.e. not shoot at folks).

By Kurt Byanski (Kurtski) on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 01:22 pm: Edit

I agree with this interpretation. So we can assume there is essentially a two SB limit for each Major.

Now, if the "substitute" for the TCB is essentially a TCB, how would you go about converting it to a TCB or upgrading it to a QCB?

By Charles "Lucky" Coleman (Mwmiyd) on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 02:23 pm: Edit

Having used B11.70 in U5, all the individual bases counted as individual bases for the max number in orbit (so they counted as 5 of my 6). In U6 the 3 base max would have to be waived for this substitution. (or count the base mix as one base for that purpose).

By Kurt Byanski (Kurtski) on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 02:45 pm: Edit

But could you combine the mess into one conversion or upgrade to later reduce the base count?

By Charles "Lucky" Coleman (Mwmiyd) on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 02:54 pm: Edit

No, I had to scrap all but the one I upgraded.

By Charles "Lucky" Coleman (Mwmiyd) on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 02:54 pm: Edit

actually, I moved the MBs, and scrapped two of the CPLs

By Kurt Byanski (Kurtski) on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 05:29 pm: Edit

This is not horrible. If you have a CB, MB and 3xCPLs at a major, you could upgrade the CB to a TCB and remove/scrap the MB and CPLs upon completion to make room for another base.

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 08:47 pm: Edit

A CB is a single base with one "pod". A TCB is an overgrown CB with two more pods (still one base). A QCB is a TCB with one more pod. I rather suspect that the only path to a QCB is from a TCB proper, not from mixing and matching other bits.

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 08:59 pm: Edit

Answer to the LSO question from the rules committee:
LSOs add special sensors. They do not turn a unit into an SR or scout. B3.15(b)/(c)/(d) specify specific ship classes (SR, scout, aux scouts). While a LSO effectively adds special sensors to a unit (even one which lacks them), it doesn't turn the ship into a "proper" scout.
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I've added notes to my rules clarifications document to ensure both these are spelled out more clearly.

By Mike Incavo (Kavo) on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 09:49 pm: Edit

Reminder; FML, FMS, FRL & FRS are not available in Y155.
Also police frigates can only be built and used by the Merchant Marine.

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 10:32 pm: Edit

Mike,

I cannot read the Kzinti file you sent me. It seems to be corrupted. Can you format and resend?

Ryan

By John Stiff (Tarkin22180) on Monday, May 02, 2016 - 10:34 am: Edit

Kurt, now we know (RE LSO).

By John Stiff (Tarkin22180) on Monday, May 02, 2016 - 10:36 am: Edit

Hey Lucky,

Are you having "fun"?

If memory serves, this is the first Galactic Conquest game where you run an empire from the very beginning.

By John Stiff (Tarkin22180) on Monday, May 02, 2016 - 10:46 am: Edit

Ryan,

You might have an "older computer" like I have.

Perhaps you could download "Microsoft Word Viewer"?

It was free software when I did so years ago.

There is also "Microsoft Excel Viewer".

By Kurt Byanski (Kurtski) on Monday, May 02, 2016 - 10:46 am: Edit

Yeah....The LSO thing is very sad. Now I actually have to build scouts.

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Monday, May 02, 2016 - 11:14 am: Edit

John,

No my computer is less than a year old, with current versions of MS Office (19.95 through work). Also had a friend try and open it.

I just think the file was corrupted.

I have received the new file as of this morning. Let the games begin.

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Monday, May 02, 2016 - 01:00 pm: Edit

Libre'Office can read anything Mike and John are likely to throw at you, cost $0.00, conform to all ISO and the like standards, and run on Linux, a bunch of other UNIX(tm)/UNIX-like OSes, plus Windows/MacOS.

By Howard Bampton (Bampton) on Monday, May 02, 2016 - 01:01 pm: Edit

Even if LSOs could sub for scouts, you'd want to build "real" scouts. As the empire that, by the book, won't have scouts for a decade or so, I wish I had your pain.

By Kurt Byanski (Kurtski) on Monday, May 02, 2016 - 01:38 pm: Edit

Outsourcing?

By John Stiff (Tarkin22180) on Monday, May 02, 2016 - 06:27 pm: Edit

Ryan, it is good to know that a "non-corrupt" file was received.

So, R&Ding "Scouts 10 years early"?

Or

Are you planning to buy Tholian scouts?
(I think I heard an offer.)