R13 would certainly be a place to include conjectural armed tugs (for those races which do not have them) but I don't need any design input to create them.

By Ed Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 09:26 pm: Edit

Steve would this be the place to publish variants of the Fed CA, such as a Scout version(CAS), Escort version(CAE), Plasma F version(CAL). Always wanted these rather than the NCA variants.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 01:34 pm: Edit

I wouldn't mind giving the Jindarians a metal-hulled DN in R13.

By Dale McKee (Brigman) on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 10:04 pm: Edit

I'd like to propose a heavy Gorn commando ship. Essentially take a COM-F, add a rear bubble and some warp (ala the conversion of the CL to BC) and voila. Call it the COM-H.

By Scott Tenhoff (Scottt) on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 07:01 pm: Edit

Isn't their a JadgTiger someplace too that Stewart Frazier probably thought up when he did the JadgPanther?

By Michael Lui (Michaellui) on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 11:56 pm: Edit

How about a LEX? An X-tech LE that has 1 squadron of ST-Xs, 1 squadron of heavy fighters, Special Sensors, and the power to use them. It would still go around as a standard CV with escorts however. And a bad attitude.

By James Hallmark (Jhallmark) on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 02:55 pm: Edit

I would like an Andro DNL. I would like it to have about 40 warp, not 48. Also I would like it to have 11ish PA panels in the front. If I could have 2 I would want one with 0-1 hanger and one with 2-4 hangers. I don't usually like to bother with SSs.

By Michael C. Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 09:43 pm: Edit

Well, I am still hoping for the Kzinti SRH (and the SRL is still on the table IIRC).

If for no other reason that the SRH backstory explains something about the Kzinti ship/ fleet roster that otherwise is puzzling.

By Michael C. Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 06:42 pm: Edit

Alternate Q ships:

A Q ship built with the Empire's standard tech but laid out different or with a different paradym.

Example a Q ship CVE. Or Q ship PFT.

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 01:00 pm: Edit

Neo-Tholian heavy scouts:

Replace the cruiser-compatible collar used for the NCL/NCM and NCA/NCH conversions with a "scout collar" that replaces the phasers, 1 APR, and 1 battery with special sensors. This enables the Tholians to quickly convert a Neo-Tholian cruiser to a heavy scout. Not a very efficient design since either the weapons or the special sensors will likely be wasted. But it does mean that if the scout itself is attacked, it has cruiser firepower to defend itself with, at the cost of blinding the special sensors.

I also note that this collar would allow the ship to use its web casters to full effect and still give some EW support to the fleet. The ship powers all its special sensors, but one (for the NCL) or two (for the NCA version) would be powered just for the sake of being blinded, while the unblinded channels would provide EW support. An NCL-based heavy scout could support the fleet with a web caster and 3 active special sensors. The NCA-based scout could do that or support with two and two. The disruptors and phaser-1s would only be used for emergency defense of the scout itself.

This collar is not compatible with the NCX or NLX. No dreadnought scout collar was ever built.

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 01:14 pm: Edit

Federation BCA

This ship is based on the BCV but the 12 F-14s are replaced by 6 A-20F. Also, two of the drone racks are replaced by AWR.

There is already an A-20-carrying version of the CVS, but it doesn't really enough power for the mission. I always thought the BCV was the better platform for a cruiser-based A-20 carrier because it generates a lot more power for arming the photons. (Note also that replacing two drone racks with AWR reduces the carriers firepower slightly but improves the power availability.)

Proposed name - Neverland.

By Michael C. Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 10:20 am: Edit

A slightly updated list for the Steves. I expect it will be reviewed and promptly ignored. But hope springs eternal...

List of new ships?

ISC
1. Destroyer sized Patrol Carrier
2. National Guard Type Scout (from converted DD?)
3. Alternate small Q ship
4. Alternate large Q ship
5. Police PF to replace skiffs
6. Escorts optimized towards defending from the drone guys (D racks replacing some F torps?)

Gorn
7. DW based Patrol Carrier
8. Light CV comparable to Fed ADW (note this is a failed design due to PF development)
9. Alternate small Q ship
10. Alternate large Q ship
11. Police PF to replace skiffs

Romulan
12. Destroyer based Patrol Carrier (F5, F6 or Skyhawk)
13. Early Kestrel type mini tug
14. F4 based scout
15. Alternate small Q ship
16. Police PF to replace skiffs
17. Alternate large Q ship
18. MurderHawk (killer hawk with D racks replacing F torps)

Tholian
19. Destroyer sized Patrol Carrier
20. PC or DD based ship to act as a minimauler (Basically cored out to hold a phaser 4 with mauler arcs)
21. Conjectural CW or C with webcasters replacing some or all Photons/ Disruptors. Later years as WC become more readily available?
22. Alternate small Q ship
23. Alternate large Q ship
24. Police PF to replace skiffs
25. Neo Tholian DN PF collar
26. Neo Tholian CA/ CL scout collar
27. TK5P (F5 rear hull w/ Tholian built boom replacement)

Federation
28. DW based Patrol Carrier
29. Late Middle years drone bombardment ship
30. NCL based drone bombardment ship
31. Alternate small Q ship
32. Alternate large Q ship
33. Federation National Guard minitug based on the EY destroyer
34. Fed BCA. BCV with A20s

Klingon
35. DW based Patrol Carrier
36. Light CV comparable to Fed ADW (note this is a failed design due to PF development)
37. First DB ship (D4 based?)
38. Alternate small Q ship
39. Alternate large Q ship
40. Police PF to replace skiffs
41. F6V
42. F6 PFT
43. D4 or F4 based minitug
44. F6 minehunter (to compare to the Sparrowhawk minehunter)
45. F6 commando ship (to compare to the Sparrowhawk commando mission)
46. D3i

Lyran
47. DW based Patrol Carrier
48. Alternate small Q ship
49. Alternate large Q ship
50. Police PF to replace skiffs
51. Middle years replacement for LTT/ FFTs? Canon says they came late to the minitug concept and they need some way to move pallets around.
52. Lyran CL repaired by Klingons with D5 engines and struts. This thing would be a killer but too expensive and it would mean one less CL -> BC conversion.

LDR
53. DW based Patrol Carrier
54. Alternate small Q ship
55. Alternate large Q ship
56. Police PF to replace skiffs

Kzinti
57. DW based Patrol Carrier
58. Light CV comparable to Fed ADW (note this is a failed design due to PF development)
59. Heavy Survey Cruiser
60. Light Survey Cruiser
61. Alternate small Q ship
62. Alternate large Q ship
63. Police PF to replace skiffs
64. Q ship before fighters were available (drones replace fighters?)

Vudar
65. DW based Patrol Carrier
66. Alternate small Q ship
67. Alternate large Q ship
68. Police PF to replace skiffs

WYN
69. DW based Patrol Carrier (maybe a couple kinds?)
70. Alternate small Q ship
71. Alternate large Q ship
72. Police PF to replace skiffs

Hydran
73. Heavy Knight (comparable to LNH)
74. DW based Patrol Carrier
75. Alternate small Q ship. More fighters and less weapons?
76. Alternate large Q ship
77. Police PF to replace skiffs

Orion
78. LR based around a large Centerline weapon (like a G torp)
79. Pirate small Q ship
80. Pirate large Q ship
81. Specialist Ore Freighter based Q ship (basically it LOOKS like an Ore Freighter but is equal to a large Q ship…)
82. LR or CR based Patrol Carrier
83. Later years Orion National Guard Ships

Generic
84. Half sized pods that can be active on a FFT/ DWT
85. Medium Freighter between the Large and Small sized. Has BOTH some integral storage space like a FT (say 12 spaces) and can also tote a pod.
86. Q ship that depends on PFs toted internally (basically a Q ship with the “pods space” replaced by an internally toted PF, 2 repair and a mech link). Special rules for recovery or launching?
87. Fighter & Bomber based recovery shuttles. Several capabilities:
a) Can tow fighters/ bombers of same or smaller size akin to the PF tow bar concept. Towed unit must eject all weapons / pods/ packs first
b) Designed to recover pois pods. Each size can pick up and tote the equivalent of 2 crews from that sized unit
c) units have lots of chaff and ew pods but little if any armament.
d) Based on the appropriate heavy fighter or med/ heavy bomber this unit has the speed to get in and get out fast.

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 02:02 pm: Edit

I would also like to suggest a Lyran "Bobcat-D" (if that designator isn't already in use). Drones don't work well with ESG-equipped ships but PFs are already excluded by the rules from carrying ESGs so the Lyrans might well have at least considered a drone-using PFs, emulating the Kzinti and Klingon drone-PFs. It might have been a design study only, or they might have built a very small number of such, before deciding that their Klingon fighters were ultimately a better (or at least more cost effective) drone platform and that their PFs should be direct-fire platforms.