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By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Monday, April 13, 2020 - 03:41 pm: Edit

Kicking my (oversized) keester about not having looked at the Light Monitor...

It lists Weapons "C" and "D" as Web Breakers (FA). That gives appropriate cause for a CONJECTURAL standard Seltorian Monitor FOR CAMPAIGN PURPOSES ONLY (shouting for emphasis :)) as having the weapons as follows...

Weapon "A" - 6xPC(FA)
Weapon "B" - 6xPh-1(360)
Weapon "C" and "D" - WB(FA)

By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Monday, April 13, 2020 - 05:40 pm: Edit

Thank you for your responses, this clears up all my questions about Seltorian monitors (light or otherwise).

By Randy Green (Hollywood750) on Monday, April 13, 2020 - 07:32 pm: Edit

I guess we no longer need to "monitor" this situation. :)

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 - 03:12 pm: Edit

Randy Green:

I think you need to join Jeff Anderson in the booth.

Slirdarian Corporal!

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 - 04:50 pm: Edit

Where can one find the SSDs for the Kzinti DDB (Drone Bombardment Destroyer) and Commando Destroyer (DDG)? The Kzinti MSSB under (R5.A23) and (R5.A24) says they are in CL53 but CL53 doesn't have them...

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 - 05:15 pm: Edit

Colonel Strong:

Something of a mystery you are reporting.

The SSDs were in fact done for Captain's Log #53, but somehow got bumped out of the product without being noticed. They exist on my computer in my Captain's Log #53 file.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 - 05:31 pm: Edit

Same for the Kzinti DDM and DDL...

By Joe Carlson (Jrc) on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 - 08:53 pm: Edit

First recorded success of the GIA

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 - 10:47 pm: Edit

External report. The internal (classified) reports Tell a somewhat different story.

Grin.

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - 12:10 pm: Edit

The four Kzinti destroyer variants were done to be in Captain's Log #53 as part of the release of the Kzinti Master Starship Book. A lot of other Kzinti SSDs were done, and this resulted (apparently) in confusion as it was decided to produce a separate Kzinti SSD pack (Kzinti SSD Pack #1) as it was done, it was apparently then decided that the Kzintis were getting enough ships and Captain's Log #53 needed to have a mix of ships from other empires. By that time it had been forgotten (even by me) that the Kzinti destroyers were supposed to be in Captain's Log #53, but the ships were still in the Kzinti Master Starship Book.

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - 12:57 pm: Edit

Will they be in cap log 54?

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - 12:59 pm: Edit

Can we let Randy Green out of the booth yet? His screams are upsetting my Slirdarian marine squad of “Keepers”.

By Randy Green (Hollywood750) on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - 07:25 pm: Edit

Thank you, Jeff!

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - 07:30 pm: Edit

You are welcome.

The squad wants to buy you a banana berry mint julep at the happy hour on Friday.

24 hours in the booth listing to Roseanne Bar sing her favorite love songs was punishment enough for ten people.

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - 08:32 pm: Edit

Slirdarian corporal, see io you an accommodate Mr. Wile in the booth as well, may as well add crowding to the booth setting.

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - 09:47 pm: Edit

It’s all okay.

Slirdarian Corporal is supposed to buy the first round of banana berry drinks.

(Hold up a sec Corp... I have to get my wrench set. we had to install 1 inch Diameter lag bolts to secure the Contour seat in the agonizer booth to the steel reinforced floor. Between the bolts and the dedicated tractor beam the whole squad of Slirdarian Marines couldn’t budge that chair. Had to do it, the unit was using that booth to train for the Federation Wide “so you think you can dance” competition. Ok, cut the power to the tractor emitters. (SQUEAK! Sound of metal on metal...) that got it. Ok, take it away.)

What setting this time? Peewee Herman channels slim Whitman’s classics! Oh goody! It’s been YEARS since I last saw that one in the rotation. I thought web mom had it retired.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, April 16, 2020 - 10:41 am: Edit

Steve P, discuss with me and JES-B at lunch today where to put those four destroyers.

By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 04:28 pm: Edit

R1.85 spells out how each nation armed their PTCs, but leaves out the Tholians. It also states that all empires except the Orions and the Andromedans fielded PTCs (which seems to conflict with the mention earlier in the entry that the Seltorians 'weren't known' to field them; maybe conjectural entries count as 'fielding?').

Since the weapon option mounts are labelled 'TORP' and the SSD contains a reference to annex 8B I've taken this to mean that phasers aren't acceptable (or typical at least) options for the mounts. Also, since the TORP mounts are FA, that seems to exclude webs and snares.

Tholians seem to have only one viable option for the PTC given that phasers are out, the disruptor. The problem is that R1.85 lists the nations that used only disruptors on their PTCs (Lyrans and LDR).

The Tholians get limited access to photons in Y170, and I don't think they would load up a Prime Trader Corvette with such a weapon. Maybe they would? Web Casters are in a similar position, a rare item not to be thrown away on a PTC.

So, what does this mean? I have four observations, and one must be wrong, which is it?:

We know the Tholians fielded PTCs (they are not Orions or Andromedans, the only two races that did not field them).

We know the option mount is for torpedo weapons (ie: not phasers).

We know that the Tholians (according to U7.26) have only disruptors as a valid torpedo mount option.

We know the Tholians are not one of the nations that fielded only disruptors in their option mounts (they are not Lyrans or the LDR).

So, which one am I getting wrong? What did the Tholians put on their PTCs?

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 04:47 pm: Edit

From the Tholian Master Starship Book Draft:

(R1.85-7) PRIME CORVETTE (PTC): The option mounts are disruptors with a range of 15 hexes; after Y170 they might be photon torpedoes, but this was very rare. Phaser options are phaser-1s.

By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 04:59 pm: Edit

Thank you very much.

I don't own any of the Master Starship books (and I realise that the Tholian one isn't out yet). Do they have entries for all of that nation's 'general' (ie: R1) units?

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 05:30 pm: Edit

Shawn Gordon:

Each Master Starship Book includes a "General Units" section, but that section only list things that are "different." Thus an entry for Starbases appears in each book, and lists (if you only have the "generic starbase SSD in Basic Set) what the weapons are, and provides what the empire specific fighters will be by year if one or more hangar bay modules are present, and what fighters will be present if the base is fitted with PF docking modules. It also lists the specific refits applicable to the base for that empire. Same for other bases.

But there will be no entry for the small (or large) freighter because nothing changes for those, no matter what empire is operating them.

Each empire's general units section is a little different from that of other empires more or less.

For example, the Klingons will have entries for repair freighters because these have "security stations" (if I am remembering correctly), which no other empire has. So any "General Unit" that is otherwise identical across all empires but has "security stations" added is listed in the Klingon Master Starship Book.

The Hydran Master Starship Book provides a broader definition of the employment of Stinger-1F and Stinger-F fighters for "local defense," and any Hydran general unit that might operate such a fighter is listed with the availability of this refit (first found with Hydran PF tenders).

General Units used by all empires with different weapons, or with fighters (AxCVL for example) all have their weapons and what fighters (as applicable) they would operate in what years.

But if there is nothing that distinguishes a given unit from the same unit used by another empire, then it will not be listed.

We plan to do a "General Units" Master Starship Book, which will include all of the General Units, and will thus have the complete "R" section (the Starbase listed in other Master Starship Books for example does not include its almost unique damage resolution system, which would be included in a General Units Master Starship Book).

I hope this helps.

By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 05:58 pm: Edit

Thank you very much, that clears up everything.

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 11:16 am: Edit

What's the crew size for the Fed Flower-class Corvette?? Sorry, if it's been posted already, I can't find it. Thanks!!


Garth L. Getgen

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 01:45 pm: Edit

On the 14th of February 2020 in this thread, I was asking if a Federation HDW or HDWX might be permitted to operate as a "single-ship carrier" if it was outfitted as what in Federation and Empire is currently proposed to be the "-Z" configuration (with semi-external mech-links in the NWO boxes to support a "short squadron" of four F-111s, plus a pair of special sensors in the RA OPT boxes), so that it may be used to hunt Andromedan Rapid Transit Network nodes the way that other empires may do with HDWs and HDWXs in a PF Tender configuration.

EDIT: I had intended to post a follow-up question in this post; yet after double-checking the R-section entries for (R2.85) and (R2.213) in the Federation Master Starship Book, I see that both the Fed HDW and HDWX are already permitted to operate without escorts if equipped with heavy fighters. Sorry for not registering this earlier...

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, May 21, 2020 - 06:23 pm: Edit

What is the maximum speed of a Romulan WE during a turn since the WE has only 20 warp boxes but a movement cost rating of 1?

Can a WE exceed speed 21 (assuming the use of impulse) during a given turn using mid-turn speed changes?

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