It does seem accurate, Shawn.

The closest thing to an argument against it comes from the tech trees in the Campaign Designers Handbook, which basically states that all prerequisites must be met before a given item can be researched.

From that, I think that, while it is possible to have the GPCFX as soon as you have the CX, that would only be possible if the non-X GFC has already been researched.

(Sheesh! I know what I want to say, but my brain's been malfunctioning lately and I can't string two words together clearly)

By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Sunday, October 11, 2020 - 05:15 pm: Edit

For empires like the Klingons who get SCSs before they get X-ships it's no problem at all.

But for the Feds (and others like them) who get their SCSs post-X-ship it seems like it might be an oversight.

It's almost as if the GPCXs and the GPCFX are missing a note that says XSID or N-SCS, whichever is later.

As you point out though, it isn't impossible to build the X-version first.

By John Wyszynski (Starsabre) on Sunday, October 11, 2020 - 07:01 pm: Edit

The Federation MSSB shows a year of Y182 for both the GPF and GPCFX via their fighter tables.

By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Sunday, October 11, 2020 - 08:25 pm: Edit

The GPF (Ground PF base) isn't what we're talking about. We're talking about the GFC (Federation Planetary Control Base).

By John Wyszynski (Starsabre) on Monday, October 12, 2020 - 12:55 am: Edit

Sorry, I mistyped. The Federation MSSB shows a year of Y182 for both the GFC and GPCFX via their fighter tables.

By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Monday, October 12, 2020 - 01:16 am: Edit

Thank you.

Yet another reason I should pick up the MSSBs.

By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 - 12:33 am: Edit

Here are the ships for the categories:

N-SCS is Y184 - (R2.75) BCS Battle Control Ship

XSID is Y181 - (R2.201) CX Advanced Command Cruiser

By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 10:13 pm: Edit

Module Y1 comes with 2 red-on-black SBR counters. What are they for?

By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 01:10 am: Edit

Also, what's a VDI? It has the reference number of the YVD, is listed as a refit, and costs 2 points more.

By A David Merritt (Adm) on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 06:44 am: Edit

SBR= Space Boar, an Early Years monster.
VDI is a refitted Early Years Vulcan destroyer with more power, see Pages 114-115 in the Federation Master Starship book for details.

By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 09:41 am: Edit

The "product where published" says Y1 in both module Y2 and in G3.

If it is only found in the MSSB, does that mean this is in error?

By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 10:27 am: Edit

Is it safe to assume that the Gorn Y1 refits are in the same boat? By this I mean that the YCC+, YCL+, YDD+, etc that point to product Module Y1 and rules in Y1 are actually just found in the Master Starship Book?

Because if this is the case, a future G4 should really eliminate the practice of pointing to the wrong book for ship entries. A far superior method of housing these entries would be like what is done with the Tholian MNP, where in the "Product Where Published" column it lists "R4-R1" so that I know I need two separate products to have this SSD, one for the base hull, one for the refit.

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 02:10 pm: Edit

Shawn Gordon:

The Vulcan Destroyer published in Module Y1 was in error in that it had 33% more warp power than it should have. So a refit that added the warp power was created and retrofitted.

Errata was included in Module Y2 on Page #16 that read: "(YR2.12) YVD: This ship should have two four-box warp engines, not six-box warp engines. The larger engines represent a later upgrade (VDI) with a BPV of 44 which became available from Y80. This ship was kept in service for decades as there was a shortage of combat effective scouts."

See also Page #16 of the Module Y2 Rulebook for the Gorn Y105 refit.

By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 02:16 pm: Edit

Thank you very much. I was looking in the respective R sections for refit information, and not finding it.

I hadn't thought to look in the "Clarifications and Errata" section.

This answers all my questions! You're the best.

By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 07:08 pm: Edit

In G3 as well as Y2 the YIS date for the Early Recovery Shuttle (RSh-Y) is 168. The YIS for the RSh is listed as 149.

This seems wrong.

The Early Heavy Recovery Shuttle (HRS-Y) makes much more sense with a YIS date of 95, with the modern HRS coming into service in 145.

Has this been corrected somewhere? What is the true YIS date for the RSh-Y?

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 - 11:56 am: Edit

Shawn Gordon:

I have a note in my copy of Module G3 that when we finally do Module G4 the Year in Service date of the RSH-H is to be corrected to Y70.

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Wednesday, November 11, 2020 - 12:17 pm: Edit

Looking at the Andro MWP and SSU in Module J2. The SSDs say the units are all SC 6. The J2 MSC (and G3) says they are SC 5. Which is correct?

(I assume 5, but want to make sure.)

EDIT: One more question on MWPs. The MTP has two TRLs that will cause shock if used as weapons. However, I am not sure what the range on them are. Do they get the full 25 hex range, or are they limited to 15 hexes like gunboats?

(I assume 15, but want to make sure.)

Thanks!

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Wednesday, November 11, 2020 - 03:34 pm: Edit

Well, going by C3A, it would appear that the answers to my questions are 5 and 10 hexes.

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Wednesday, November 11, 2020 - 04:39 pm: Edit

MWPs are size class 5.

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Wednesday, November 11, 2020 - 06:34 pm: Edit

Just want confirmation on the 10 hex range of the TRL on the MTP. Is that correct? (Again, it would seem so from C3A.)

And thank you for the answer!

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Wednesday, November 11, 2020 - 06:53 pm: Edit

I would have to say 12 hexes.

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Wednesday, November 11, 2020 - 06:57 pm: Edit

That is different from C3A, but makes more sense to me. Honestly, I would have made it the full 15 hexes, to be honest.

But, 12 it is!

Thanks!

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, November 12, 2020 - 04:15 am: Edit

Do the Federation and Kzinti have Fast Battleship (BBL) designs? If so, where as I can't seem to find them...

I have found the following:

Klingon B9, Rom KSH, Gorn BBL, Hydran MNL, Lyran BBL, and ISC BBL and BLT

Question to ADB: If they don't exist, are there plans to publish them and/or others in the future?

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, November 12, 2020 - 06:40 am: Edit

They are the headline for the next r module, R13 if I recall correctly.

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Thursday, November 12, 2020 - 07:47 am: Edit

SPP; why 12 hexes? Most direct fire heavy weapons on fighters or PFs are limited to 10 hexes and I can only think of two exceptions, photon torpedoes and "double charged" fusion beams on Stinger-Xs.