First time, not sure it will ever be real. Just a lark.

By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Wednesday, June 16, 2021 - 09:52 pm: Edit

It’s a lark that I like the looks of! And thank you for the answer.

By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Wednesday, June 16, 2021 - 11:07 pm: Edit

Looking at the graphic beneath the boxes, and what’s there - it’s two CA engineering hulls, with the probe launcher in one and the transporter in the other replaced with drone racks. The port and starboard phasers in the saucer are still LF+L/RF+R, so the mainengines are still in the elevated position.

A frigate engine is added between the engineering hulls. As the ph-3’s are LS/RS, it looks like it is blocking the firing arcs on them, so it’s in-line or just slight above them - as an FC card it’s unknown if the left/right phasers still have clear fire directly astern or not. The engineering hulls’ ph-1 going from 360 to FA seems to indicate it’s not just a matter of blocked arcs, but they had to be repositioned to account for other structural differences with the frigate engine struts and such. The impulse deck is also expanded.

Even with the frigate engine it still has a top speed of 28 from warp (it would need a 1-1/8 move speed to be able to reach speed 30). Same shields as the CA. Did the Klingon Academy ask the Kozenko Design Bureau for simulator opponents?

I want the miniature.

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 02:09 am: Edit

I am now awaiting the double-boomed D7.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 06:41 am: Edit

Is the second boom parallel to the first or sticking out the back?

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 08:55 am: Edit

Parallel. Both out the front. Both separable. (Though, I suppose it would be both or neither.) Would require two new mount points, as neither would be centerline.

Very roughly like the Seltorian CA.

Oooo. Then you can make the KR version, giving you two ships instead of just one ...

By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 10:01 am: Edit

For the D-7, stack mount the booms...
One faced up, the other down....
Shouldn't take to much to create at mounting point..
Also, should be easier to set up the warp field...

By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 11:58 am: Edit

I don't think stacking would work, the boom takes up almost the entire vertical space available on the rear hull. And that's before considering the bridge section at the end is much taller in profile, so the offset needed for both would leave them not connected to the rear hull at all.

I think a tri-boom configuration with F5 or even just E4 booms hard-welded to the forward corners of the rear hull would be more workable - not sure of the relative sizes and thus if the F5 would still have an issue with the bridge section at it's widest clearing the D7 boom or if it would need to go down to the E4 for that.

Either way, that's adding 4 phasers and a couple of power. All the command spaces are redundant (and the booms wouldn't be separable), so can probably fit a drone rack and a ph-3 at the very least. Mount on E4 engine on the D7's deckhouse. It's not adding as much the Fed CK gets due to the CA's secondary hull being significantly larger, but it's a stab in the same direction.

Or to go in a different direction: D7 rear hull, C8/9 boom without the warp engine, E4 engine on the deckhouse.

Oh, I'm pretty sure the "boom out the back" was published as an old April Fool's ship, I'll need to paw through my weird stuff and playtest binder when I get home.

By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 12:34 pm: Edit

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Or to go in a different direction: D7 rear hull, C8/9 boom without the warp engine, E4 engine on the deckhouse.

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By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 12:36 pm: Edit

The C8/9 boom is significantly larger than the C7 boom.

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 01:18 pm: Edit

Just for the record, my suggestion was entirely meant as a joke. If Steve makes a ship as a result of that joke, great. If not, that's great, too.

The point of doing the two parallel booms is to directly mimic the CA with two rear hulls in Hailing Frequency. That's it. It is two parallel booms because the joke CA has two parallel rear hulls. It is meant to be a direct corresponding answer to that, very specific ship. And even then, the only reason I even gave the clarification is because Steve very specifically asked.

This was not meant to be an attempt to design a dozen kitbash ships. Or even one. It was just a joke with a clarifying answer because Steve directly asked. I didn't expect an actual discussion to suddenly appear and start powering into weird directions. But I certainly should have.

I apologize for starting this.

By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 01:53 pm: Edit

I'm taking the tack of "The Fed CK is a ship I would like to see an SSD for, even if it's just Module R14: Gorkon Kamsey's Simulator Nightmares" but realizing, after taking the time to study the card and realize what it actually is (a doubled secondary hull CA) that it's a one-off idea (maybe even an active disinformation piece leaked by GIA) than the start of a new class. And with that in mind, the Klingon kitbashing is, at least from me, a tongue-in-cheek "could the Klingons even do something like this if they wanted to".

Still want the CK mini.

By John Smith (Johnsmith) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 02:59 pm: Edit

Question for the players: what is the state of SFB these days? Looking at various threads, it seems like the BBS here kinds took a sharp downturn ~2010. Is that a sign of SDB dying off, or has discussion moved to some other platform, or something else?

I was active for a few years, but quit around that timeframe. There seems to be a lot less activity than I remember. Especially in the player campaigns area, sadly. I'm hopeful that just not looking in the right place.

By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 03:43 pm: Edit

Hi John!

They did a big purge of older topics a few years ago, so that's probably part of that. ADB has said that based on things like Starlist, sales, etc, the player base has, if anything, been growing of late. The SFB Facebook group is very active - the BBS here seems to be more the province of the more hardcore players now. The Hailing Frequencies newsletter has links to it and all the other SFU-related groups.

SFBOL is also a focus of a lot of play these days as well. And in general, the playerbase seems kind of fragmented in that a lot of people who play or have are often in the same general area, but just unaware of each other (or in the case of lapsed players, that the game is still being published and played). ADB is getting the Rangers program spun back up to help with that.

By John Smith (Johnsmith) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 05:05 pm: Edit

Thanks for the quick reply. Too bad most of the activity is on facebook. If there's any other sites that have activity, I'd sure like to know about them. I despise facebook.

By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 05:33 pm: Edit

You can always do what I do: post a bunch here

By John Smith (Johnsmith) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 05:42 pm: Edit

well, i created a facebook login for the SFB page. looks like we're in the same city.

By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Thursday, June 17, 2021 - 06:59 pm: Edit

Double boom Klingons...

I wonder...

Double C-8 booms on a B-10 rear hull?


Double rear hull from the Fed CA...

Double rear hull from the Fed CVS?

(Sorry; that was VERY bad. Unfortunately, it's a logical conclusion based on the initial idea. )

By Ginger McMurray (Gingermcmurray) on Friday, June 18, 2021 - 09:51 am: Edit

I posted in the FB group and was surprised at how many players are actually in the Dallas / Fort Worth area. We had a small group which started meeting shortly before COVID but it turns out that there are at least a few more.

There's also a live map of players here: https://tinyurl.com/3j8cv8bw. Just because someone is on there doesn't mean they're active but it's worth reaching out.

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Friday, June 18, 2021 - 11:35 am: Edit

Sorry for being late to the party, but that "Attack Cruiser" is a lot like the 'spare-parts DN' design that I created umpteen years ago. On mine, however, I used three 15-box warp, and I put a photon on the front of each secondary hull. Saucer has Bridge and Flag Bridge, and then Emer & Aux are on the aft hulls (two boxes each). Otherwise, everything was the same as the original donor ship.


Garth L. Getgen

By Jessica Orsini (Jessica_Orsini) on Monday, June 21, 2021 - 11:48 am: Edit

I'd say it was more of a backdoor method to cooking up a heavy battlecruiser (albeit one with a bit of a movement cost issue).

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, June 21, 2021 - 02:05 pm: Edit

Completely the same except totally different. Obviously unrelated. I am sure I have seen 100 such proposals in 40 years but I don't remember any of them.

By Ginger McMurray (Gingermcmurray) on Tuesday, June 22, 2021 - 12:51 am: Edit

Our first face to face game since COVID will be July 11th. We're in the DFW TX area. Feel free to join. 😊

By John Smith (Johnsmith) on Wednesday, June 23, 2021 - 03:24 pm: Edit

I'm nowhere near DFW, but I'm curious what the string of symbols and digits at the end of the post is for. I assume something everyone but a person as electronically challenged as I would know immediately.

By Ginger McMurray (Gingermcmurray) on Wednesday, June 23, 2021 - 04:31 pm: Edit

It looks like it replaced my emoticon with the code for it. It's a smiley face.