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Generally, it would retain a prorata number of drones depending on how many, if any, of the fighters it retained. Otherwise the storage is used to support the ground operation (medical supplies, or disaster relief supplies (even the Klingons support colonies), or etc.
Thanks Steve.
Can someone please tell me what the weapons are for a Hydran BATS?
Question on (R1.22E2), if the Federation M-SCP is carrying A-20s, does the number of deck crews increase to 18 or remain at 12?
Pulled out my R1 SSD book. It's thirty years old (and I'm waiting for the Steves to release their planned updated SSD book R1, but no pressure... 
), but think its information is still good.
In the central core, the Hydran BATS has two Fusion Beams on a 360 degree arc and two Hellbore Cannon also on a 360 degree arc. I would suspect that the Hellbore are considered a "Refit" (of a sort) and an "Early BATS," if there is such a thing, might have four Fusion Beams on a 360 degree arc, but that's not verified by anything on the SSD; it's a guess on my part. Also, the central core has no phasers.
Each outer module has, in addition to the two Phaser-4s that almost every BATS has (I think the Vudar are the only exception that comes immediately to mind) has a single Ph-G replacing the two Ph-3 that're standard in the outer modules.
Total number by types of guns on a Hydran BATS are...
... Six Ph-4
... Three Ph-G
... Two Fusion Beams
... Two Hellbore Cannons.
Ginger - It's in the table in the basic set (pg 163), W1 - Hellbore, W2 - Fusion, W3 - Void.
Thanks! My basic set is hard copy and buried in a box somewhere. I really need to dig out and scan that page.
Ken, I couldn't find a hard answer myself, BUT there is one reference that provides a fig leaf.
The Federation SCS (R2.32) is listed as having 38 Deck Crews, according to Annex #7G. Ship description says that she carries her A-20s in a semi-external bay represented by the Heavy Fighter Mech-Links.
Were I to ever be asked for a ruling (shudder), I would rule that a Federation MON with SCS pallet operating a squadron of standard fighters and the squadron of heavy fighters would have TWENTY FOUR Deck Crews aboard.
This is a ruling based on the precedent of the Federation SCS (as stated above) AND the description that the "Federation SCS Monitor Pallet" (with two full fighter squadrons) is also listed as having twenty four Deck Crews.
IF ASKED, I would also state the blanket rule against most Federation carriers as being prohibited from operating SWAC that the Monitor would NOT qualify to have one (this was a side thought instigated by the thirty EIGHT deck crews; I happened to remember that Federation SWAC have their own deck crews assigned).
Further, IF ASKED, I would also rule that the Federation MON, even if operating a SCS pallet, would NOT warrant having an MRS, even though many carriers operating far fewer fighters are permitted to buy them.
Naturally, these are just my opinions and our Web Hosts are fully justified in telling me these would be bad rulings.
The Hydran Master startship book says Hellebore fusion and void.
(R1.2-9) BATTLE STATION (BATS): Weapon #1 is
hellbores. Weapon #2 is fusion beams. Delete Weapon #3. In
Y133 convert each pair of phaser-3s to one phaser-G, i.e., six
phaser-3s become three phaser-Gs; no change in BPV
Is there an SSD with a squadron of A-20s on it? I have a CVA in Y178 but the base SSD has A-10s. I checked module J but can't see it. I can edit the SSD with a pen before the game but that's annoying.
Module K, page 9, 1991 edition, for both a squadron of A20s and F111s.
Got it! Now I'm ready to roll out the CVA and smash some face. :-)
The A-20FM (YIS is 179 - but maybe a squadron of prototypes?) is on my short list of contenders for best fighter in SFB.
What's the rest of your list?
Ginger,
I started to answer here, but this is the Questions on Ships topic and I decided the answer probably belongs in a tactics discussion topic. So I will post my answer there, probably in several installments.
In Module G3, Annex 7G has a note "Drone storage from carrier pods is loaded into the cargo boxes of the tug itself (if any)." If the carrier pod has cargo, would those cargo boxes be used first. Second question, is the storage for a tug pod combination that has no cargo boxes zero? - Ken Kazinski, 21 Oct 2022.
Annex 7G - Module G3 - Federation - VCA - What is the drone storge for the VCA? - Ken Kazinski, 21 Oct 2022.
Annex 7G - Module G3 - Federation - VDN - What is the drone storge for the VDN? - Ken Kazinski, 21 Oct 2022.
Annex 7G - Module G3 - Federation - VFF - What is the drone storge for the VFF? - Ken Kazinski, 21 Oct 2022.
Annex 7G - Module G3 - Federation - VNL - What is the drone storge for the VNL? - Ken Kazinski, 21 Oct 2022.
Hmmmmm, IIRC the priority for cargo is spare fighters, fighter supplies (WBP, fighter pods, etc), then drone storage. For non-cargo, drone storage is in the last 'ExDam' box, though it's been a bit of time ...
Stewart: per (FD2.443), the non-cargo storage facility for fighter drone stores is destroyed with the last shuttle box.
Ahhh, wrong last box ... should have at least try to look it up ...
A question regarding Hivers operating Barb fighters.
With the new BattleForce 550 article, I'm doing Hivers. Naturally, since we're presenting our forces, we don't yet know what the scenario we'll be facing is yet. As someone who wants to be ready for as much as possible, I'm trying to balance out my Hiver force for anything ranging from monsters to planetary landings.
My force at this time consists of five CA, each with two ADMIN and two Barb-2 fighters.
ADMIN are useful for delivering ground troops and can serve as LAB (J2.212); the latter is a useful feature, given that the Hiver CA has no LAB boxes .
The question I have (for myself) is, "Will it be enough?"
An option would be for the Barb-2 to have fighter pods (J11.0), but WILL the CA be able to naturally or will I need to pay Commanders Option points to have them?
Rule (J11.13) states, "STOCKPILE: Fighter pods are carried only by "fully capable carriers." Carriers receive these pods for free in all scenarios (including Patrol scenarios) unless otherwise noted.
The rule then goes on to allow, as part of the allotment, one combat pod, such as the ground attack pod (J11.34), and one auxiliary pod, in this case, I'm looking for use of a sensor pod (J11.42).
Again to a "fully capable carrier," these come at no cost.
My question is, do Hiver ships operating fighters, ships that have had "Launch Rails" installed, classify as "fully capable carriers" for this rule, or is the fact that their Shuttle Information Block show all ADMIN shuttles for the shuttle bay mean they do not qualify for this status and will I therefore need to pay for the desired pods out of commander option points?
(BTW: those of you working on BattleForce 550 groups? You might want to think about how you might plan for things like these. I'm working on plans for monsters, planetary assaults, minefields, rescues, and all sorts of other potential situations.
(... Aaand enjoying it immensely. )
Since the Hiver CA does not have a squadron of fighters, it falls into the casual v=carrier category [using (J4.62) for fighter supplies) unless its ship description says otherwise ...
Note that the Hivers are not permitted to operate sensor pods prior to Y176 under (OJ3.42).
Also note that, as mentioned at the top of this thread, Omega-specific questions usually go here, while LMC-specific questions typically go over here.
The Hiver CA fighters can use the allowed Fighter pods stockpile (J11.13) that is available to them in Y175 (J11.131), no cost
Thank you all for your inputs.
Will we have ground combat? I don't know, but it is a possibility.
Will we have to deal with a monster? I don't know, but again, it's possible.
The former can be dealt with by additional boarding parties, even if ground attack pods aren't permitted.
The latter? Shuttles and (G4.31) substitutions are my best bet. DEFINITELY would have wanted the fighters to help do the job; they would have increased capabilities by one heck of a lot!
(Shazbat!)