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Two other POSSIBILITIES come to mind, and I'm not sure of either, BUT...
For some (many?) Empires, Survey ships can be converted to operate as Commando vessels. Two Empires, the Lyrans and Romulans, have Survey ships that are also tugs (of a sort); the Lyran SR can operate Lyran pallets (and I believe Klingon type pods as well) and the Romulan Pioneer Eagle can carry the same cargo pod as a Freight Eagle can.
However, I don't know of either one of those Survey ships can operate as Commando vessels.
There is, of course, a regular Tug operating a Commando Pod/Pallet; I have in the past tried flying a Federation Tug with a Commando and Carrier pod combination. Didn't do too well with it, but hey, it was worth a try... 
In the Alpha Octant, the Vudar commando war cruiser can be used for the same (limited) range of "tug missions" as the Klingon D5G and D5WG.
As for what those missions are: they are listed over in F&E Combined Operations under (516.322).
A question on the Fed DHD could the deckhouse idea have been applied to other variants of the DD(DE, SC, DDL, DDG, DD(M))
Whoa… now there is a new thought.
New refit of a deck house refit for the DD, SC, DE, DDL, DDG, DD(M).
I would love it, but a voice inside my head is saying that it is too good a deal for the Federation, unless an equal/offsetting refit could exist for the Romulans or Klingons.
Not to mention a possible new Star Fleet History epic can of worms for Petrick.
Eddie, honestly, I hope you have a very secure bunker near by, with plenty of rations and water available.
What about applying the deckhouse "Refit" to the NCL?
(Movement cost boosted to 1.0, so it uses the standard, fifteen box Federation WARP engines...)
OH, yes! Also, don't forget to add Megaphaser wings to it before it gets hijacked by Ricardo Montalban...
... Aaand I'm gonna duck before SPP tries to blow my brains out with a gun with the once-mentioned microscopic sight
(P.S.: I do know that would undoubtedly violate the agreement you have with Paramount, so it's not meant as anything more than a joke here)
Jeff, the Klingons did get the collar, that could also be applied to the Romulan versions.
That collar has, I do believe, been already factored into the game system.
A deck house refit for Federation type I class ships has not.
It is a Steve and Steve decision, but in view of decades of similar choices/proposals, it might be overpowered. Of course, that depends on the numbers and type of SSD boxes added.
I look forward to seeing how this works out.
3 variants for the DD DHD, DHT. DHV were listed in CL 33
Eddie E, Crutchfield, not SPP but I can make a few reasonable guess.
Okay to start answering your question let's look at what we know was on file. The DHD (R2.A42) had two variants on file, DHV (2.A42A) and DHT(2.A42B). A few years later a new round of HDD (2.45) was proposed with three variants, include the HDV (R2.A25A), HDT (R2.A25B), HDM (R2.A25C), and HDC (R2.A25D). Let's see how they line up.
DD DHD HDD
CARRIER DHV HDV
TRANSPORT DHD HDT
MINESWEEPER MAYBE HDM
TROOP DOABLE HDC
So based off of the Heavy Destroyer it should be possible to build a Deckhouse Destroyer Minesweeper and a Troop ship based off the DHT.
As far your remaining ships;
Destroyer Escort would be a poor choice for a Deckhouse House conversion because it reduces the Gatling Phaser coverage by 120 degrees (no LR or RR Arcs). The Heavy Destroyer with its lower super structure should be doable.
Scouts should not be an issue with either design.
Guided Destroyers or Plasma Destroyers should be pretty straight forward and doable.
Lastly Destroyers ‘M’ yes, the could be converted but they would receive their ‘+’ Refit at the same time so would be just plain old 4 barreled Lollipops Deckhouse Destroyers.
So to continue the list from above,
DE UNLIKELY DOABLE
SC DOABLE DOABLE
DDG DOABLE DOABLE
DDL DOABLE DOABLE
DDM DHD HDD
Now the scary thing is to apply both to one Destroyer and make the top Nacell with a 15 boxers as well. Or replace the Nacells all together with a War Destroyer suite.
Eddie E, Crutchfield, not SPP but I can make a few reasonable guess.
Okay to start answering your question let's look at what we know was on file. The DHD (R2.A42) had two variants on file, DHV (2.A42A) and DHT(2.A42B). A few years later a new round of HDD (2.45) was proposed with three variants, include the HDV (R2.A25A), HDT (R2.A25B), HDM (R2.A25C), and HDC (R2.A25D). Let's see how they line up.
DD DHD HDD
CARRIER DHV HDV
TRANSPORT DHD HDT
MINESWEEPER MAYBE HDM
TROOP DOABLE HDC
So based off of the Heavy Destroyer it should be possible to build a Deckhouse Destroyer Minesweeper and a Troop ship based off the DHT.
As far your remaining ships;
Destroyer Escort would be a poor choice for a Deckhouse House conversion because it reduces the Gatling Phaser coverage by 120 degrees (no LR or RR Arcs). The Heavy Destroyer with its lower super structure should be doable.
Scouts should not be an issue with either design.
Guided Destroyers or Plasma Destroyers should be pretty straight forward and doable.
Lastly Destroyers ‘M’ yes, the could be converted but they would receive their ‘+’ Refit at the same time so would be just plain old 4 barreled Lollipops Deckhouse Destroyers.
So to continue the list from above,
DE UNLIKELY DOABLE
SC DOABLE DOABLE
DDG DOABLE DOABLE
DDL DOABLE DOABLE
DDM DHD HDD
Now the scary thing is to apply both to one Destroyer and make the top Nacell with a 15 boxers as well. Or replace the Nacells all together with a War Destroyer suite.
Good afternoon,
Where are the Weapon entries for the Civilian Base station (R1.35) from Module C3? I have the SSD for the station, but in my copy of the C3 rules, I can't find the W1, W2, W3 and W4 weapon as well as what main phaser entries for this station in the various races rules.
Thanks,
Russ
Found it!
Russ, you'll find the chart in the Rulebook for Module R1. My copy of the newly published "Revised and Updated" has it on Page 12.
You can also find the individual empire data in the respective Master Starship Books at (R1.35-X). The Fed civilian base station data in the Federation Master Starship Book, and so on.
Robert Russel Lender:
I am not (Honestly) sure at this point why there is no better note in Module C3 on the where to find the ship description for the civilian base station, other than the note on the base station itself which says to see (R1.35) for the base's weapons, but does not say that the rule is in Module R1. We Just did not want to have it buried in C3 as the only ship rule "(R1.35)" in the module. As it is it also included two X-Ship SSDs that we could not fit into Module X1.
Klingon F5WS. If losing the forward phasers was controversial, why not upgrade the phaser-3s to phaser-1s as was done on the leader version?
Too expensive. To Phaser 2 maybe?
Phaser-1s or phaser-2s would blind the sensors so there was no point.
The ship already has 3 Phaser-1s (RX). What about swapping the Phaser around so it would have a Phaser-1 (RS), a Phaser-1 (LS) and 3x Phaser-3 (RX)?
How about leaving the ship alone, i.e., the way Steve Petrick and I designed it? I think I'll go with that one.
When the Klingons destroyed the remnants of the Seltorian forces in this galaxy (finishing the work started by the ISC), they apparently captured a few Seltorian ships which they subsequently sold to the Wyn.
Do SSDs for those ships exist anywhere? It would be possible to use the "Brothers of the Anarchist" rules, except...
1. Although I can find references to the Seltorian ships being sold to the Wyn, I can't find anything stating which ships they were.
2. The Wyn were known to make "factory not-authorized" improvements to ships of other empires. Did they do this to those Seltorians ships? Or were they straight forward "Brothers of the Anarchist" conversions?
The Wyn-Seltorian FF and DD were published in a Captain's Log (don't have the issue # handy) as rules R12.A6 and R12.A7. The Klingons supplied two DDs and three FFs to the Wyn, all in Y187, according to the associated article.
Jason,
Thanks. According to Module G3 it's CL #37. Like an idiot, I completely forgot to check there before my previous post.
Say, the Klingon Empire over here in my neck of the woods has lost his AF5.
Anyone know offhand where one would find the AF5 SSD or conversion info?
Thanks.
Klingon AF5 (R3.77) is in R3
Changes to F5 - Disruptors + ADD* + Drone to 4 G-racks plus add one fighter ready rack shuttle space.
[*ADD added with B refit]
Thank you. I'll print one off and hold it hostage for a milkshake or something. Can't be too careful with these Klingon types.