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That is (SL105.0) Eagles Return (Y178), which was published in Captain's Log #7.
Thanks, Jessica!
Two things on my purchase list currently are Module Y1 and the new-style counters from the Basic Set. Both of these seem to be out of print. Having looked through a few posts from c. 2022 I see there were major issues with getting counters printed economically. I notice a topic related to reprinting, but the archive only covers the very latest part of the conversation. Can someone please fill me in on the current state of counter print availability?
Also, I am wanting to buy updated versions of the counters for various other modules that I own and that might be available, but it is unclear from some of the descriptions of some modules, what style of counters are available through the store:
R1 and R2 : the module rules and SSDs have been revamped, but the counters still appear to be the old-style.
T : the picture shows 216 old-style counters, the description says 280 and not what version.
Please can someone clarify, especially regarding T - I am hoping to order 5 or 6 copies so that our little group of 3 players can play tournament, including same race.
I have been playing The Paravians for a while now.
I believe that if the Paravians had as in the alternate timeline formed an empire. They would not have had any real effect om the general war.
First the Paravians seem to be very Zeno phobic. They attack everyone and raid everyone in range. as A race they seem to be fragmented by clan/tribal groups. Only a strong leader can get them to work together.
As the general war expanded the Romulans were building up their fleet. With pressure mounting from the Klingons to attack the Federation. They would have sent envoys to the Paravians. looking for an alliance to attack the Gorn.
The Paravians with their Zeno phobic and fragmented government would turn that down. In Y174 the Gorn enter the General war. The Paravians think about attacking the Gorn's. This is delayed by the fragmented government.
The wild card at this point is the ISC. The Romulans are at war with the Federation and Gorn. This gave the ISC the perfect opportunity to stop the Paravians raids on their systems. This would be a good test of their new battle tactics with the echelon formation and PPD.
The ISC attacks made early success and then the Paravians joined together and slowed the attacks. This would not last as the economy of the ISC is just too strong. The Paravians would not have had the ships to spare on raids on the Gorn. Allowing them to rotate ships into and out of the Gorn/Paravian Border squadron. Then in Y180 with the Sabot plasma torpedo. That was the end for the Paravians. Driven back to the home world and a few colonies. The ISC set up the blockade of the Paravians the start of how they would set up the other blockades during their peacekeeping efforts latter after the General war.
I have found that the QWT out ranges all but the Plasma R and firing every turn gives them an advantage. With speed 40 torps. That out range is not so much. QWT does 1-3-1 out to 21 moves. (4-12-4 from a CA) A plasma S is down to 10. Phasers can weaken that down even more. 16 phaser damage drops the Plasma S to 2 while 16 phaser damage kills one QWT. The sabot could make that 15 to 20 for the plasma S. Causing 22 to 15 damage.
It's not that the Paravians were xenophobic; rather, they had a zealous religion, and in that religion, the fossilized remains of proto-Gorns were considered demons; thus, they held an entirely religious hatred toward the Gorns once this was discovered.
Another impact of a Paravian Empire is the loss (to the Gorn) of the economic regions occupied by the Boids. This will reduce Gorn production, plus there'll be the need for the Gorn to keep some ships stationed on the Paravian border.
For these reasons, I would guess that a Paravian Empire might cause the Gorn to almost be a non-factor in F&E.
Alternatively;
The Gorn and Federation alliance begins before the general war as the Paravian raids discover the Scoleans in Federation Space.
The ISC is then discovered by a joint Gorn/Federation task force attempting to flank the Paravians. They establish friendly relations with the ISC, and then during the discussion are attacked by the Paravians, who in their religious frenzy refuse any type of parler, and the ISC are forced to realize that the universe is filled with both crazy species, and those who understand peaceful cooperation.
This pushes the ISC to a more agressive stance and they join the Alliance to contain the Paravians. When the Romulans attack the Federation, the ISC is already prepared and support the Federation in stopping the Romulan advance and succeed in pushing them back, maintaining the Federation economy and allowing the Federation to divert forces against the klingons and Lyrans. Drastically swinging the momentum to the Alliance.
This results in a collapse of the Romulan empire, and a balkanisation of Romulan space under the care of the Gorn, ISC, Federation alliance. The Paravians are unable to resist the alliance's combined assault and the Paravian and their colonies are separated with ISC/Gorn/Federation patrols and are prevented from accessing space.
The Klingons seeing the way the wind is blowing quickly sue for peace leaving the Lyrans, Hydran, and Kzinti fighting out the end of the general war by themselves.
The ISC with Federation support attempt to be the peace keepers between the three races.
Leaving the Federation, ISC and Gorn and Klingon in a much better state to face the Andromodeans when they arrive.
Thus the Paravian empire's existence can have a drastic change to how the history plays out. That nasty butterfly. 
good points
I couldn't figure out where to post this, but as you can see, I chose right here.
I've reached a milestone (for me) in this SFU adventure. I've just completed reading every issue of Captain's Log.
Starting with Issue #25, sometime in 2021, I believe. And wrapping up with #40 just this evening.
I've done a lot of jumping around; rest assured I covered all 54.
One could go on for hours about it, I suppose. Suffice it to say, I'm looking forward to some rereading, new issues, and wished I'd made some sort of reference catalog along the way!
Joeseph,
There is a index -
http://www.starfleetgames.com/documents/Captains%20Log%20Index/INDEX_OF_CAPTAIN's_Log.pdf
Hi,
Can anyone please clarify, regarding Xander Fulton's three special counter sheets, seen here, what is the purpose of sheets one and two? I thought sheet two must having something to do with cloaking, except that there are ships include from empires other than Romulans and Orions.
So you can recreate that episode when a Federation heavy cruiser stole a Romulan cloaking device and escaped with it. Or mess around with cloaks for empires that never had them historically.
So I was curious. How many Heavy Cruisers once built actually got upgraded. I mean I know the Production switched from Standard CAs to CC to CBs and eventually CXs. But how many actually were converted from base CA hulls to a heavier unit.
Good question, Dal.
AFAIK, there were only a couple CAs that were converted to CC or CVS standards. I don't think any were upgraded to CB, and conversion to BC was impossible.
Likewise, I think there were (maybe) one or two CC that were upgraded to CX status.
TBH, if you want the real answer, methinks you'll find it in the Federation Master Starship Book. If you don't already have a copy, I do highly recommend it, not only for questions like these, but also because it really is a good, all-in-one reference for the Federation military in the SFU.
(P.S.: No, I don't work for the ADB, Inc. sales department... )
The best source of info on this is from John Sickels' developmental history article in Captain's Log #52.
It states, among other things, that all Federation CBs were new construction, as were all but one of the CXs (with the conversion of NCC-1749 USS Vincennes from a CB to a "test-bed" CX being the notable exception).
However, a number of pre-X1 ships were given partial-X refits - most notably X-batteries and X-phasers - over time.
Are the web calculation forms from Module C3 available as a download, in the same way that things like EAFs are? I just bought the C3 colour SSD book (curse you ADB, I now have to replace all my dull old B&W SSDs with colour ones) and it isn't included with that. Thanks.
I'm looking for a GIF for the standard SFB 4230 hex-map, white background. I found the PDF version, but given that I want to be able to color shade some hexes, I need it in GIF format. If someone can point me to such a GIF (or email one to me), I thank you in advance.
Garth L. Getgen
@Garth - inkscape or libreoffice draw are free and open source tools that can import and directly modify PDFs and even better, retains the maps as vector images which means you don't get pixelated results.
@steve - I cannot see the forms in my 1991 printing of C3 either - what page are they on of which (rules or SSD)? Which edition: electronic or paper and which year?
The PDF version is here: http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sfin/HexMap4230.pdf
I'm looking for a GIF format of the same image.
Garth L. Getgen
Thank You, Ryan Opel for sending me the GIF image hex-map!
Garth L. Getgen
Ryan, if you want to, send the gif to Simone for the download page.
Jean, should we put the pdf of the hex map on the web stores?
If yes put them up as a pay what you want since it is already on the website.
That was my theory, something for the greater benefit of wargaming. We might also want to put up one without the six sector boxes.