It looks like I play Dana next ?

Sending an email.

Cheers
Frank

By Geoffrey Clark (Spartan) on Monday, July 28, 2025 - 01:19 am: Edit

Yes, thanks for the report! It is Feds vs Klingons in the final!

By Gregory S Flusche (Vandar) on Monday, July 28, 2025 - 05:26 pm: Edit

Ouch yeah walking into a wad of photons that hit OUCH

By Justin Royter (Metaldog) on Friday, August 01, 2025 - 06:52 pm: Edit

hell yes! Well done Frank! Good luck in the final round, watch out for that D7, Dana has his formation cleaned up and can field a ton of drns quickly with the D6D (powerful scout) and the C7.

By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 07:34 am: Edit

Dana and I are playing this morning at 9 am EST.

Cheers
Frank

By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 09:01 am: Edit

Sorry folks but we had to cancel due to RL.

Trying again tomorrow, Sunday morning at 9 am EST.

Cheers
Frank

By Jessica Orsini (Jessica_Orsini) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 10:22 am: Edit

We need a live cam of this.

By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 11:25 am: Edit

Shame we cannot set it up like we do in x-wing and stream it.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 03:52 pm: Edit

You can just log in (even as a demo/guest) to SFBOL and watch in the room live.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, August 03, 2025 - 01:51 pm: Edit

Poked my head in and looked at the game as of the end of T2 (it was still on, although all the involved players had left; someone was still in the room before I got there).

There were a bunch of drones on the map. One of the E4's had a down shield and a few internals. The most relevant thing was that the C7 was exactly 8 hexes away from the three main Fed ships (BC, NCL, DDL?), with their #1 shield facing the C7's #3 shield. This seems important, as it is about to be impulse 1 of T3?

By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Monday, August 04, 2025 - 07:28 am: Edit

Dana and I played yesterday morning for 4 hours.

T1, fleets start at R89, took 15 minutes or so to play.
Feds move sp 30 all turn, no EW.
Klingons move 31 [C7, ew 6/0], E4s move sp 30, ew 2/0, D6D moves sp 28, ew 4/0.
Both sides advanced towareds each other.
Nothing else happened.

T2, Fed ships is R32 to leading C7, took 3.75 hours to play !
Fed shooters move sp 15 all turn, BCF, NCL, DDL all have 0/6 ew, FFS moves 9, no ew.
Klingons move 15/24 for C7, ew 6/0, E4s move 19/26, ew 3/0, D6D moves 12/24, ew 6/0.

2.9 sees the Feds unload 10 proxcies at R30 with +0 shift on E4-B with 4 hitting scoring 3 internals after a brick of 1 is applied.
Klingons launch a wad of drones, D6D launches a drogue drone, launches 5 drones and then land the drogue.

Feds launch drones at the Klingon drones, FFS uses her channels to breaklock ons succeeding with 3 and failing 3.

BCF launches a MRS on 2.2 that survived until 2.28 where the C7 hammered away with 4 ph 1s at R8 crippling it with 9 damage.

NCL was the target of choice for the C7 enduring a blast of 16 damage points on her #2.

Feds move towards the center with the Klingon E4s turning westward then south and the C7 and D6D keeping to the north of the Fed fleet.

Feds were busy using ph 1s as well for drone control and the C7 was busy hammering away at the MRS and NCL.
No Klingon drones hit but 2 swordfish drones did get to R1 to fire thhier ph 2 at the BCF !

A Fed SP did pop with 4 drones in flight as the D6D used a channel for lock on breaks succeeding in breaking lock on to the BCF and NCL ecm drones.

C7 and D6D did launch their ecm drone on 2.24.

Fed fleet all in a stack [in 5331A] are R8 to the north east C7, #1 to C7 #3, the D6D is off to the north west a bit, R13 her #3 to the Fed #1.
The 2 E4s are west [port side ??] of the Fed fleet, R8 with their #6 to the Fed #6.

There are 11 Klingon drone sin flight at R2, R5, R7 and R9 to the Fed fleet, all comin gin from the port side.

There are 4 Fed drones in flight, all R4 to the C7 coming in in on the #2 and #3 shields.

No set play date to continue.

Cheers
Frank

By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Monday, August 04, 2025 - 07:32 am: Edit

I forgot to mention the 3 internals on the E4B are LWarp, ph 2 FA/R and FHull.

Cheers
Frnak

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, August 04, 2025 - 07:55 am: Edit

Ah, ok, so the R8 C7 from all the Fed warships isn't in danger of being shot by 10 photons on impulse 1 of T3. Important info!

By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Monday, August 04, 2025 - 01:33 pm: Edit

Peter,
Correct, the C7 gets a pass on T3. :>)

Next play date is set for tomorrow, Tuesday night at 7 pm EST.

Cheers
Frank

By Dana Madsen (Madman) on Tuesday, August 05, 2025 - 12:20 am: Edit

Yes, I'm going to try not to wander into range 8 with my only real combat ship if the feds could have 10 OL photons, not until he is hurt. The D6D is within 15 of the BCF and the C7 so I guess I could jam it for 6, loan 6 to the C7 and have C7 generate 6 to get me up to 12 ECM in general and 18 versus his BCF. The FFS can't loan the same amount of power, so he might be a mixture of +1 and +2 and have to think about whether he wants to shoot at range 8.

On imp 28 the C7 hit range 8 and had some great ph-1 rolls and did 12 phaser damage from 4 phasers and 2 std disr hits to the NCL (no shift). Plus 4 other phasers shot his MRS. So I started the damage. I took no return fire on the C7 as his phasers were mostly dedicated to drone defense. The DDL could have shot me with ph-1s but would have had a +2 shift.

But this next turn, I know he has his f-torps so I don't want to get too close, and he could shoot some ph-1's. He is going to need to use a bunch of ph-1 in drone defense. T2 the BCF used 7 ph-1 and 2 ph-3s. The NCL used 3 ph-1 and 1 ph-3. The DDL used 1 ph-3. Plus the MRS shot and used an ADD round. I'm pretty sure the BCF and NCL used their batts as well. So if the BCF is reloading photons, plus batts plus phasers and a little ECM, he doesn't have much speed.

I launched 12 drones T1, and 18 drones (8 rack, 5 SP, 5 drogue) at the Fed T2 (plus 4 ECM drones). So he dealt with 19 drones last turn leaving 11 on the board. I can launch another 12 this turn, plus up to 3 scatter packs and another drogue off of the C7. Got to spread them out though, don't want to put so many in flight and close together that he gets good t-bomb shots our weasels them. But I could put out more drones than he could deal with without a weasel.

By Dana Madsen (Madman) on Wednesday, August 06, 2025 - 12:01 am: Edit

So, 11 imp of T3 were played tonight. About 3 hours, but there were a few interruptions in there (Frank had a suspected gas leak and needed to call it in and talk to the tech) and lots of drone movement.

Starting speeds,
KLI - C7 (24), D6D (21), E4s(19) - no ECM/ECCM
Fed - BCF (10), NCL/DDL/FFS (12) - 2 ECCM on NCL, 3 ECCM on DDL

E4's turned in on imp 2. BCF launched 2 spd 40 pl-F at them. They launched 2 drones, shot 3 disr imp 3 and het'd away imp 4 speeding up to speed 26. Plasma will likely hit imp 16 for 5 each, maybe a few ph-3's shot first. Remains to be seen if they are real or fake.

FFS used 1 channel to break my ECM drone locks on D6D (failed twice on C7). D6D launched new ECM drone. FFS jammed C7 for 6 pts offensive ECM, C7 raised 3 ECCM from batt.

C7 turned out, slipped, used ADD to kill 3 of 4 inbound drones, shot last one with 2 R/RR ph-3. C7 slowed to 12 on imp 3, launched drogue and 5 drones from drogue. Imp 11 sped back up to 24 after turning back facing C.

D6D turned in, came inside range 8 (then accidently to 5) I thought I was 6 but trying to cut across his front and played it too close. He dumped batt on BCF,DDL,NCL to up ECCM and counter my jamming then fired 14ph-1 at D6D #2 shield doing 51 damage (27 internals). Lost 7 power, 3 ph, 1 sensor, 1 drone. Still have one cargo and my batts somehow. I'm a cruiser I can take 25 internals, and recover but I am hurt. I've turned out and will have to turn around to my left and probably separate from the C7 for a turn or two. D6D has sped up to 26 just after getting shot.

I've got 2 drone hits so far this turn, 12 on NCL #6, 12 on BCF #5. On one he rolled 3 damage on a ph-3 with no backup, on the other he let it hit the BCF after killing the other heavy drone with 2ph-3.

He managed to kill 9 drones with 1 t-bomb. 6 were from a SP, I tried to separate a couple hexes but not enough. Then he tractored 3 drones in front of him and slipped to push them into the explosion radius at the same time it went off. Good trick that, saved him phasers to shoot me.

He has 5 more drones inbound from D6D which are likely in trouble from a second mine. Then 5 drones are inbound from the C7 (within range 8) that he will have to deal with. Also C7 just launched a shuttle.

His BCF has turned right, facing B, and is two hexes off the #3 shields of NCL/DDL which are still going facing A and haven't turned this turn.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, August 06, 2025 - 07:51 am: Edit

Thanks for the updates!

By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Wednesday, August 06, 2025 - 08:26 am: Edit

We do have a gas leak.
Getting it repaired ASAP.

Play continues tonight at 7 pm EST.

Cheers
Frank

By Dana Madsen (Madman) on Wednesday, August 06, 2025 - 11:44 pm: Edit

finished T3.

Realized at the start that Frank had fired 4 phasers from the wrong side of his NCL/DDL at the D6D. He shot 2 x LS ph-1's on each when it was the RS ph-1 in arc. His RS were unfired, so everything could have stayed the same, but all inbound drones were coming in on the RS of those ships and they were unlikely to be able to turn into arc at his current speed. So, we backed out 4 ph-1's from the damage on the D6D and undid 15 internals. Ultimately the BCF shot 6 ph-1 and the NCL / DDL shot 2 FH ph-1 each for 10 total. So the D6D only ended up taking 12 internals. 2 warp, drone, 2 ph-2, tractor, hull / cargo.

E4's continued turning around behind the action chased by 2 f-torps that hit one for 2 + 1 pts after some phaser defense fire. They were real, so the BCF has launched his plasma. The undamaged E4 continued turning and ended up at r12 off the NCL #5 shield. The E4 with internals flew back and ended up on the SP shuttle it launched on T2. It is 16 hexes off the NCL #5 shield. They aren't really doing much, but they provide 12 drone control, launch a couple of drones, and threaten SPs. If any of his ships drop out crippled and fall behind I've got a job for the E4's

Frank did a great job (and a little luck) in dealing with the rest of my drones. 8 were killed by a t-bomb. The NCL had to drop a front shield to transport it out which meant it turned a little later than the BCF/DDL so it's a hex behind the DDL. He used a combination of a SS shuttle, another 5 or 6 phasers, plus the t-bomb to kill the remainder of my 11 drones.

My C7 kept turning across the #2 shields of his fleet, BCF turned first to point it's #1 followed by DDL and lastly NCL. FFS was a few hexes behind those ships so when it turned early it actually cut in front and got ahead. C7 turned right one more time bringing BCF and FFS into it's front arc. DDL launched 2 f-torps at range 6ish? C7 took a range 5 shot on the FFS combined with a range 3 shot by the D6D with 3 ph-2 (blinding channels, maybe that will hurt me next turn). D6D got 9 points after a +2 shift. C7 hit with 2 OL UIM (no burnout) on 1-3's and 1 of 2 std disr on 1-2. Then added 8 ph-1. Overall 43 damage doing 25 internals to the FFS and dropping it's #1. 5 power, both batts, sensor, ph-1, ph-3.

Next imp (about 19 I think), C7 het'd away from the Feds with f-torps and a 6 fed SP drones chasing it. C7 ran the torps out to imp 28 for 12 impulses or 10 damage each. 2 ph from C7 and 2 from D6D reduced it to 12 damage, both real on C7 #5 shield. Imp 24 C7 changed spd to 12 so it couldn't get back out of range. Then C7 turned right ending the turn at range 7 centerlined by the BCF on C7 #3. Range 8 to the DDL (3 hexes to the left of the BCF also on the #3 and range 9 to the NCL which is 1 hex behind the DDL.

C7 dumped a t-bomb out it's hatch to catch the drones, but I waited a couple imp too long and with slowing down never cleared the detection zone to arm it fast enough and the drones just got through by 1 impulse. The drones ended up targeted on the D6D though which stayed at speed 26 so it kept moving away from the fed ships. At EOT there are 4 drones 2 hexes off the D6D. So I have time next turn to deal with them, plus they are at optimum ADD range for the C7. D6d should have time and options on the drones. The D6D is at range 9 or 10 to all fed ships.

All 4 of my ships have active ECM drones. Fed only has them on FFS/DDL. I have 49 shield damage across my ships and 15 internals. Fed has 65 shield damage and 25 internals. My shield damage is more concentrated while his is spread around.

So start of next turn the fed could shoot 6 OLs + 14 ph-1 (BCF & DDL RS) at range 8 at the C7 on a 24 pt shield, and 4 proxes from the NCL. I expect that none of his torps have any OL energy paid on T3. I also expect that most of his ships are empty on batts and near empty on phaser caps. So, the DDL would almost certainly be at +1, I don't think it can afford full OLs plus rearm phasers and pay for ECCM. The BCF would struggle to move after paying 24 to OL 4 torps, ECCM, recharge phasers and batts. With proxes or standards the NCL could maintain moderate speed.

I'm partly wishing right now I never blinded my D6D channels so I could support the C7, but honestly the D6D is too close to provide much support anyways. It only has 35 power, needs to pay for it's own 6 ECM and run away from the Feds.

So the big question is, will he OL and shoot up the C7? Or he could put 10 proxes into the rear shield of the D6D plus ph. His FFS only has 1 chaannel, he could try and break lock on of my D6D and C7 ECM drones or he could support the BCF to have no shift. But if he gets unlucky and fails to break lock, then he is likely shooting at +1 on the BCF and +2 on the DDL. If he OLs and even if he does 30 to 40 internals I'll get 30 hexes of separation and 3 or 4 turns to run and Peter can testify that the C7 can fix a lot of stuff with EDR in that time.

We may continue again tomorrow at 7 Eastern, if not tomorrow then Friday.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, August 07, 2025 - 07:45 am: Edit

Exciting!

And yes. EDR on that C7 is bananas.

By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Thursday, August 07, 2025 - 08:46 am: Edit

I'm glad Dana caught my error re firng the wrong side phasers.
Dana generously offered to let the damage stand but consider the proper phasers as being fired but I preferred cancelling the last 4 die rolls and reduce the damage accordingly which was 15 and replace the 4 phaser caps [2 for NCL and 2 for DDL] .
Dana agreed as I think this was the best resolution for my error.

Our scheduling is about to get sporadic.
Dana has until next Tuesday to play and then he is busy for a week and I have until Aug 16 to play and then I am busy sporadically for 2 weeks until late Aug or early Sept.

If we do not get this fight done by next Tuesday, it may be in Sept before we can resume.

It has been a fun fight !

Cheers
Frank

By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Friday, August 08, 2025 - 09:48 am: Edit

We did not play last night but we are playing tonight at 7 pm EST.

Cheers
Frank

By Dana Madsen (Madman) on Saturday, August 09, 2025 - 11:35 am: Edit

Got T4 complete last night, fairly quick turn, about an hour with EA and drone loading, then Frank had to break.

C7 spd 24(3), 20(18), 14. 6 ECM, no disr
D6D spd 24(3), 20(23), 15, 6 ECM, no channels
E4A spd 19(23), 26, 0 EW, 2 disr
E4B spd 12(20), 19,
all KLI have ECM drones

BCF spd 5, 0 EW
NCL spd 8, 6 ECCM
DDL spd 9, 1 ECM + ECM plasma
FFS spd 3, 1 channel, ECM drone

Imp 1, he took a shot with the BCF, 10ph-1 + 2 x 12pt OL, FFS gave 6 ECCM to BCF and BCF gen 3ECCM from batt, 0 shift. NCL fired 2 prox @ +1. Great phaser rolls, 1 OL hit, 1 prox hit, so average. 41 damage, 6 rein. 11 internals 2 ph (ph1 and ph3) drone rack, 2 warp, rest hull.
C7 shot back 7 ph-1 doing 15 to the BCF #1 and E4A shot 2 range 15 disr doing 3 to damage #5 shield.

Imp 2, BCF fires std photon at C7 down shield, misses. Thats it for firing on C7.

C7 & D6D spend imp 1-3 ADD'ing and phas on SP drones chasing D6D. D6 uses all 5 ph shots as ph-3's.

T5+ C7 and D6D end up turning left, facing B than A and running for north end of map, E4A turns north as well. E4B lands it's SP shuttle from T2 than turns left, facing C and heads away from Feds.

BCF launches SP early, but C7 moves enough that at EOT the drones are 3 hexes away. All fed ships turn north (facing A). DDL in front, NCL 1 hex behind, BCF 3 hexes behind, FFS 6 hexes behind.

EOT C7/D6D are 17/20 hexes from DDL front right, about the #1/2 boundary. C7 is 3 hexes behind D6D. C7 is 7 hexes from north boundary, I'll have to turn, probably left and cut across Feds #1, same for D6D, but it's got a few hexes lead.

E4A is 16 hexes from DDL facing F off its #6/#1 boundary. E4B is 20+ hexes from feds closer to the #5/6 boundary facing E.

No EOT for feds. Kli fixed drone rack on D6D, ph-2 on E4B (2 turns of CDR) and 1 shield on E4B.

EOT klingons have 72 shield damage, 3 down shields (#3 on C7, #2 on D6D, 1 box on E4B #2) and a half str #5 on C7. Kli have 11 int on C7, 11 on D6D, 2 on E4B.

Feds have 85 shield damage. 1 down shield on FFS, half str #1 and #5 on BCF plus couple points on #2 and #6. NCL has half strength #2 and #6. DDL no damage. Feds have 25 internals on FFS.

I think I'm mildly advantaged right now. My C7 can accelerate to 28. His ships can only go < 20. The DDL going 19 could get to range 8 on the C7 before I cross it's #1 and start extending range again. Maybe the NCL could get 8 with tractor games on DDL. BCF can not, range 12 best with 1 prox. He has no plasma this turn. If he tries to get 8, I don't think either ship will have power to have a shot without a 1 or 2 point shift, and the C7 will fire 6 - 8 ph in return with no shift, I might do more damage. The FFS could support 1 ship, but next turn my D6D can reactivate it's channel and loan a few points to C7. The DDL just can't rearm plasma, photons, go best speed and play ECM games with a C7, the NCL can't really do it well either.

So I can squeeze by along the top end of the map, and unless he gets lucky he won't get through the 12 pt shield on the C7 (plus 7 batt). At that point I have a speed advantage and I can run for 2 turns reloading drone racks, fix a couple boxes on each of D6D and C7. One or both of my E4's can go fast, loop wide left around behind, FFS can't maintain fleet speed with other ships, his ships can go best speed to pursue me and not let me fix much or they can limit speed to 15 and stay near their crippled scout. I'll have all my drone racks fixed although not fully reloaded, reload all SP and drogues, and his drone defense will be just a little bit weaker with the damaged scout.

His scout can repair, but 2 CDR boxes, and no labs left so only 1 EDR roll from bridge on a 1-2. Fixing 3 or 4 boxes isn't going to change it's effectiveness.

Meeting again tomorrow at 9am eastern.

Oh, I suck at dropping t-bombs out the hatch to catch SP drones, too much tourney play and not familiar with mine rules and thinking through implications. 2 t-bombs used by C7 for 1 drone kill. Feds have used 2 t-bombs for 15 drone kills. We can tell that Frank's patrol experience is coming through there. I have to admit, I'm not really flying a coordinated fleet battle. I'm flying a tourney fight with a C7 and the D6 / E4's are just wandering around in a supporting role.

By Justin Royter (Metaldog) on Saturday, August 09, 2025 - 03:15 pm: Edit

My biggest concern in watching this battle, and it has been well played by both players so far, is the speed of the federation units.

Also, as Dana said himself, in watching a few turns the Klingon fleet cohesion/ coordination has been sub optimal.

Great fight so far, looking forward to the remaining turns, thank you for the updates.

By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Sunday, August 10, 2025 - 08:38 am: Edit

For the record, there are more Fed drones in flight than Klingon drones...............
:>)