Yellow on green is already in use by the Carnivons.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, July 23, 2025 - 09:54 pm: Edit

Yellow on green was Carnivon, yellow on black was Vudar, yellow on red was Paravian, yellow on white didn't work, so I figured yellow on blue was available.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, July 24, 2025 - 07:49 pm: Edit

G3: ANNEX #7A COLOR OF COUNTERS

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Thursday, July 24, 2025 - 08:55 pm: Edit

Yellow & blue == Boy Scouts.

Oh, yeah, the Owl is a Botak Scout!!


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By Shawn Gordon (Avrolancaster) on Friday, July 25, 2025 - 02:36 pm: Edit

Yellow on blue is the Pharoh Cartel.

By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Saturday, July 26, 2025 - 10:50 am: Edit

A question on the Vudar Survey Cruiser in CL 32. I see it does not have any IPGs on board. Does anyone know if this was intentional for some reason or just a missed print.

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Wednesday, July 30, 2025 - 03:59 pm: Edit

Eddie Crutchfield: Given the limited range of effect of the IPGs and their tendency to blind special sensors interfering in their operations when lending OEW to enemy ships and EW to friendly ships while protecting the SR, and the general tendency for SRs to be in the back of combat to make maximum use of their special sensors, the choice between IPGs and Ion Cannon seemed appropriate for the Survey ship. If your experience is different and the IPGs are more useful, please provide some examples. I admit that I do not claim to either be perfect or without error in this case.

By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Wednesday, July 30, 2025 - 04:39 pm: Edit

I was just wondering since in the Jamming it does not blind sensors, and other than the SR and the PFT all other scouts have IPGs, thanks. Get well soon

By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Wednesday, July 30, 2025 - 07:20 pm: Edit

A question was a Heavy PF ever done for the Vudar?

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Friday, August 01, 2025 - 07:12 pm: Edit

Was there ever any discussion or published version of Rom Modular Fast Ships (either the Firehawk or the Sparrowhawk class? I am picturing a Fast Firehawk and Sparrowhawk Scout.

What about fast transports for any empire was that DOA?

By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Friday, August 01, 2025 - 09:53 pm: Edit

For some reason, Lar, I'm picturing a Firehawk variant that uses "A" type modules, has its Plasma-F Torpedoes replaced with Phaser-1s (FA+L/R), and has the four Warp engines with nine boxes each, but I don't know if it was really part of a "R" module or the result of one too many bowling balls to my head.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 12:11 am: Edit

As noted here, there is a Fast FireHawk in Module R6; and a Fast SparrowHawk in Module R11.

Neither ship type is modular; any "mission variants" would have to be hard-welded to the hull.

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Beyond this, Module R11 includes a fast blockade runner for the Inter-Stellar Concordium: a variant of the ISC fast light cruiser (also in R11).

When the Pacification cordons were broken up into a series of semi-isolated cantonments by the onset of the Andromedan invasion, these blockade runners were used to ship critical supplies from ISC home space to and from these cantonments.

Given the unique circumstances involved, I would not expect other Alpha Octant empires to deploy equivalent units. Nor, indeed, for the ISC to do so in the "Mapsheet P" timelines from Module C6 - in which there most likely would never have been any kind of Pacification Campaign to begin with.

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 12:13 am: Edit

Fast versions of the SparrowHawk and FireHawk already exist. The Fast SparrowHawk is in Module R11 and the FastHawk (Fast FireHawk) is in Module R6.

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 12:14 am: Edit

Gary beat me to it.

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 02:27 am: Edit

Sorry i knew the A versions of those Fast ships existed. What i was looking for was the (modular) variants of them. Fast scout Fast Carriers, fast Troop ships etc.

Even if the ‘modularity’ was lost in the process and the ship modules are hard welded (no future changes). I dont believe they do because of the lateness of a modern Rom fleet but its fun to dream.

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 02:21 pm: Edit

There is already a FastHawk-K.

By Dal Downing (Rambler) on Saturday, August 02, 2025 - 11:51 pm: Edit

IIRC There was only one Fasthawk A it was converted to a K and all subsequent Fast Ships were K.

By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Sunday, August 03, 2025 - 04:23 pm: Edit

Eddie,

RE: A question was a Heavy PF ever done for the Vudar?

SSJ1 did publish any Heavy Fast Patrol Ships.

By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Monday, August 04, 2025 - 12:15 am: Edit

Ken, It was pre Vudar, so nothing since, thanks

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Monday, August 04, 2025 - 01:25 pm: Edit

This might be getting close to the point where it warrants its own separate proposal thread over here.

But, for what it's worth, I'm not entirely convinced that the Romulans would go to the trouble of hard-welding SparrowHawk mission modules to either their FastHawks or Fast SparrowHawks, unless there was a particularly strong reason to do so.

I suppose if any of these hulls had survived the General War, the Civil War, and the first half-and-more of the Andromedan invasion, the Romulans could consider converting one of them into a fast patrol ship tender configuration, so as to help go after Andromedan satellite bases. There is plenty of Romulan space to cover, and only so many X1-ship PF tenders to go around for them by then, after all.

But even so, the higher maintenance requirements for the "fast warp" engines might impact the degree of station-keeping the ship can maintain while scanning for RTN nodes. Or rather, impacting the degree of workload required in order to repair and tune up the engines between each search-and-destroy mission.

Still, it might be worth letting this topic have its own discussion thread, so that such questions can be answered in greater detail.

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Monday, August 04, 2025 - 01:37 pm: Edit

But the Romulans already have X-tech PFTs based on SparrowHawk and FireHawk hulls. Granted, those are even more expensive than PFTs based on "fast" SparrowHawks and FireHawks. They are also more capable and more survivable. For Fast SparrowHawk or FastHawk-based PFTs to make sense, I think they have to be introduced earlier than you are proposing.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Monday, August 04, 2025 - 02:26 pm: Edit

I did also say that there were only so many of those to go around.

Historically, only one FireHawk-EX, Admiral Centius, was built - which is noted as racking up an impressive tally of RTN nodes.

Three SparrowHawk-EXs are named in Module X1R, but it's not clear if there were more than this or not.

Plus whichever SaberHawk-EX hulls are deployed as PF tenders - though they are perhaps less successful at this mission than the larger X1-ships mentioned above would be.

In theory, the lone SparrowHawk-CX could be given a pair of "casual" PFs and sent on this role also. However, it's not entirely clear if this actually happened in the historical timeline.

But that is still a relatively small number of X1-ships suitable for anti-RTN duty to call upon - and, again, a lot of Romulan space to try and cover with them.

So there are likely a number of non-X ships which the Romulans were obliged to field, to backstop the X1-ships being tasked with this crucial mission.

And now, I really do think this ought to be moved to its own dedicated thread... (I'd start one up myself, but I want to give the original poster some time to consider starting his own such thread up.)

By Dal Downing (Rambler) on Monday, August 04, 2025 - 05:51 pm: Edit

This really pretty mote. Did any other Empire field specialty Fast Ships? A quick scan of CaptLog50 Rom Civil War indicates that no Fast Ships seemed to survive the General War. After the Civil War the Rome are so strapped for cash I doubt they would choose or BB even be allowed to build a specialty fast ship.

By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Tuesday, August 19, 2025 - 10:32 pm: Edit

A question on ships and the heavy weapons drogue. Can Federation ships, BCF, and DDL which are equipped with F-Torps and can pay for Sabots purchase a heavy weapons drone with F-Torps.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Wednesday, August 20, 2025 - 12:24 pm: Edit

Personally-speaking, I would prefer that only Alpha empires which use such-and-such a technology "natively" should, by extension, use drogues armed with such weapons.

In which case, the Federation would not gain access to plasma-F drogues.

Although, I admit to not being a fan of the drogue concept in the first place, but how and ever...