| By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Wednesday, October 22, 2025 - 11:31 am: Edit |
John,
I suspect that is, in fact, the intent. But I posted here anyway just so people would be aware of the contradiction. Note that the ship entries in Module G3 have a "War Ship Status" column. So if you look up the Fed BB, for example, you see that it has Status of "CNJ" (Conjectural). But the fighter entries have no "Status" so if you look up the S-IVM, you find statistics for it but have no way of knowing it didn't actually exist. The only way to know that would be to check the Tholian Master Starship Book.
| By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Wednesday, October 22, 2025 - 08:24 pm: Edit |
Question re Fed IPL Y177,
In CL 24, the Bpv shows 50 CBpv but in G3, it indicates 65 CBpv.
Does anyone know which is the true CBpv ?
Thanks.
Cheers
Frank
| By Jessica Orsini (Jessica_Orsini) on Thursday, October 23, 2025 - 07:06 am: Edit |
Frank,
The base Federation POL was revised up to 50 BPV (many a long year ago), and Module G3 was published well after Captain's Log #24; Occam's Razor puts the IPL at 65 BPV.
| By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Sunday, November 02, 2025 - 11:16 am: Edit |
Frank,
SPP verified the IPL BPV is 65 on 2/13/2010 19:32:00
| By Russ Simkins (Madcowak) on Sunday, November 09, 2025 - 06:37 pm: Edit |
Small freighter "in ballast" (no pods, skids, ducktails, just control and engine) move cost?
Found a post that seemed to infer there is an SSD somewhere but I haven't found it. CL#23 has move cost of unpublished F-S + McCargo pods down to 1/5 so shouldn't be more than that.
| By Frank Lemay (Princeton) on Sunday, November 09, 2025 - 10:11 pm: Edit |
Jessica and Ken, thank you.
Cheers
Frank
| By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Sunday, November 09, 2025 - 10:52 pm: Edit |
Russ, That might be a good ballpark as a normal small freighter is 0.33, a harbor tug [(R1.50) one power skid] is 0.25. So with no skid, might be 0.2 (no official SSD).
| By Robert Russell Lender (Rusman) on Monday, November 10, 2025 - 01:20 am: Edit |
I have an SSD from the online Small Freighter In Ballast has a move cost of: 1/4.
Not 100% sure but I believe the SSD was posted in the online entry of one of the Starfleet Times or Starletters.
| By Russ Simkins (Madcowak) on Monday, November 10, 2025 - 04:30 am: Edit |
Rusman, you were right. Star Fleet Times #43 (1999) has a small freighter in ballast with ducktail. Move cost shown as 1/4. Issue came out between CL#18 and CL#19
CL#23 (2001) talks about F-S with 120 meter (15 cargo box) or 80 meter pod (10 cargo box) with 1/4 and 1/5 move costs respectively. Can't think of a good reason the rig would be faster with a small pod than no pod at all. Maybe the ducktail causes extra drag without the cargo pod wind deflector!
Also mentions two intriguing data points: only 10% of F-S in Y165 have skids but that doesn't mean they don't become a fad in GW years. Also mentions engine upgrades:
Quote:"At about the same time as the new commercial twin-engine drive modules, the so-called “Military” drive modules appeared. These had more power, and were more capable of maneuvers and long-distance travels. These were fairly rare creatures (mostly owned by governments) until much later, when the birth of auxiliaries during and after the Four Powers War spurred wider production and made them economical for civilian use. As time went by, more and more “civilian” freighters had these larger engines. At the end of the General War, some freighters had even larger engines (two five-box engines for the small freighter and two ninebox engines for the large freighter) which gave them the power to operate at maximum “combat” speeds and freed them from the limits imposed by commercial-grade engines."
| By Robert Russell Lender (Rusman) on Monday, November 10, 2025 - 09:47 pm: Edit |
Hey Russ, I sent you an Email that might be helpful for your freighter combinations.
| By Robert Russell Lender (Rusman) on Sunday, November 16, 2025 - 06:47 am: Edit |
Quote:CL#23 (2001) talks about F-S with 120 meter (15 cargo box) or 80 meter pod (10 cargo box) with 1/4 and 1/5 move costs respectively. Can't think of a good reason the rig would be faster with a small pod than no pod at all. Maybe the ducktail causes extra drag without the cargo pod wind deflector!
| By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Sunday, November 16, 2025 - 09:32 am: Edit |
If you consider the smaller cargo pods have/carry less mass, the movement cost would be less as the engine power would move the ship faster.
| By Robert Russell Lender (Rusman) on Sunday, November 16, 2025 - 12:31 pm: Edit |
Wait a minute. I just started going over this in closer detail and I think I see what the other Russ was talking about and it doesn't add up. Something somewhere is incorrect.
I also just dug out my CL#23 to re-read it for myself... "A small freighter with an 80m pod had a move cost of only 1/5 of an energy point per movement factor, while a small freighter with a 120m pod had a movement cost of 1/4 energy point per movement factor."
All three of my copies of (CL#23, R8 & R11) state that skids & ducktails do not increase the movement cost of the freighter. Though to be honest, I would assume an F-S carrying two or three skids SHOULD have a higher move cost and I feel this needs formal clarification either way.
The SSD from SFT#43 shows F-S in ballast with a movement cost of 1/4. I am not aware that the move cost of a pod-less freighter is formally stated anywhere else. So does a pod-less F-S have a move cost of 1/4, or 1/5 or 1/6 or what? This absolutely does need a formal answer to clear things up. Same goes for the F-L move cost and associated differences when carrying more than two skids or different pod sizes.
| By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Sunday, November 16, 2025 - 08:33 pm: Edit |
Thing is, for multi-pod freighters, the overall length must match (between the bridge and engine housings). For example, an FL with a 120 pod and 80 pod would need a 40 skid to balance out.
| By Robert Russell Lender (Rusman) on Sunday, November 16, 2025 - 09:07 pm: Edit |
Stewart, You are correct, but that is not what's in question. It's the move cost needing clarification.
| By Russ Simkins (Madcowak) on Sunday, November 16, 2025 - 10:59 pm: Edit |
Yes the issue is, as the most excellently named other Russ points out, move costs (particularly small Freighters) with the various cargo pods, engines, skids, ducktails, etc. There are undefined gaps in the rules for combinations.
Been working up a system that would handle all that but not yet finely tuned on some of the numbers. System must reinforce the defined rules/SSDs (i.e. F-S std engines with 25 box cargo can fit 1 skid + ducktail with no additional move cost but 2 skids with a 25 cargo is a no-go, no 4 skids even without cargo). Got something working but still too early in development to share as I dial in the numbers for the crazy number of possible combinations. Includes the discussed but never revealed improved engine packages and smaller pods from CL#23 article.
The move cost given in SFT#43 I don't give credence to since so much printed in SFT is bonkers like the F-S with twin 25box cargo pods.
Basically every component is given a two digit "mass effect" value. Not truly mass but their effect on move cost. Specific engines, control, skid, ducktail, various pods, etc each have a listed value. The sum value for the freighter is compared to a simple chart of the move cost for each range of "mass effect" summations. Sounds more complicated than it is but here is an example with the numbers I have for now.
F-S with std twin 2 box engines (11) + 1 skid (6) + ducktail (3) + cargo 25 (13) = 33
The chart is the decimal equivalents of move cost fractions 1/3=.33, 1/4=.25, 1/5=.20, 1/6=.16 without the decimal.
Mass effect rounds up so if you have 26 mass effect you have 1/3 move cost.
Can't go above 1/3 (33) as that is too taxing on engine design. That enforces limits on what combos you can assemble.
As far as skids & ducktails declaration they don't add to the move costs: Well that's true from a game perspective with the standard combos but they do have mass. It just doesn't effect the standard freighter layouts in terms of the current game. Start bumping up the engines (which have greater mass effect) and there are instances where that may not hold.
Anyway, don't want to over burden this thread with something that should go into its own proposal thread when it's ready for eval.
| By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Tuesday, November 18, 2025 - 03:45 pm: Edit |
Can a Fed CA/CC hull be converted to the CB "Heavy Command Cruiser". I seem to vaguely remember something, somewhere, suggesting that they could not, but I can't find a specific source. I checked the FEDERATION MASTER STARSHIP BOOK and I couldn't find anything that would definitively answer the question. But it did explicitly say that "The heavy command cruiser is a variant of the heavy cruiser (R2.4)." That would seem to indicate that a CA or CC could be converted to a CB.
So which is it, and what's the source of that information? More generally, which (if any) CAs/CCs can be converted to heavy command cruisers? In the KLINGON MASTER STARSHIP BOOK it states "The D7W heavy command cruiser (R3.88) and its variant the D7WD drone cruiser (R3.163) were built on drastically modified D7 battlecruisers and considered to be their own base hull." I can find no comparable statement in the FEDERATION MASTER STARSHIP BOOK that the CB is considered to be its "own base hull". One possible interpretation would be that a Fed CC could be converted to a CB, but a Klingon D7C/D7L could not be converted to a D7W. But that's certainly not the only interpretation, based on the wording I've found so far. So is their a definitive source on converting command cruisers to heavy command cruisers? If so, where?
| By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Tuesday, November 18, 2025 - 06:12 pm: Edit |
In F&E, a Fed CA or CC can be converted to a CB and a D7 or D7C can be converted into a D7W (Tactical Operations SIT).
| By Mike West (Mjwest) on Wednesday, November 19, 2025 - 12:29 am: Edit |
Regarding the freighters, "freighter in ballast" is the same thing as "freighter with no pods". As such, The best movement rate a small freighter with no pods should have is 1/4. It should not be 1/5 and we can chalk whatever was in SFT as playtest material that was eventually superseded.
So, at some point, the "load" on an F-S will drop the movement rate from 1/3 to 1/4. We know a full 50-box pod requires the 1/3 and that no pod gives 1/4. Where the middle is crossed would require some investigation to see what has been printed for various "mini-pods". But, no matter what, the movement rate should not be better than 1/4.
(The F-L would do the same thing, switching from 1/2 to 1/3 at some point with a light enough load.)
To be clear, this is just my opinion and any official decisions will have to be made by the Steves. But I really don't see any configuration of F-S moving faster than 1/4 when the published "F-S with no pods" has a 1/4 movement rate.
| By Robert Russell Lender (Rusman) on Wednesday, November 19, 2025 - 08:32 am: Edit |
Mike,
That's sort of the problem.
Where is the officially "published" pod-less F-S (with a movement cost 1/4)?
The only "Published" SSD of it I've ever seen is in fact SFT#43. And the CL#23 article is the "published" rule reference stating the F-S with a short (10 box) cargo pod is movement cost 1/5. Both cannot be true. One of them must be incorrect
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, November 19, 2025 - 04:29 pm: Edit |
Tell me where the "published" SSD is and I will compile this into a "blue paper" for Petrick to review the next time I see him, which might be Thursday, Friday, or Monday.
| By Jessica Orsini (Jessica_Orsini) on Wednesday, November 19, 2025 - 05:37 pm: Edit |
The "published" SSD of a small freighter in ballast with a 1/4 Move Cost is on page six of Star Fleet Times #43; the description of a 1/5 Move Cost for a small freighter with a "short pod" is in the final paragraph of the "Development of the Standard Small Freighter" article, page 11 of Captain's Log #23.
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, November 19, 2025 - 06:25 pm: Edit |
I need something other than SFT if there is anything.
| By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Wednesday, November 19, 2025 - 09:07 pm: Edit |
Here is a list of "Freighters"
| Unit | Move Cost | SSD Page |
| (R01.69A) General S-DT Small Freighter Ducktail | 0 | R08- 3/CL23 Pg- 11 |
| (R01.69A2) General S-PT Small Freighter Power Pack Ducktail | 0 | R11- 3 |
| (R01.69A3) General S-WT Small Freighter Workboat Ducktail | 0 | R11- 3 |
| (R01.69B) General L-DT Large Freighter Ducktail | 0 | R08- 3 |
| (R01.69B2) General L-PT Large Freighter Power Pack Ducktail | 0 | R11- 3 |
| (R01.69B3) General L-WT Large Freighter Workboat Ducktail | 0 | R11- 3 |
| (R01.5) General F-S + S-DT Small Freighter In Ballast With Ducktail | 0.25 | SFT43 Pg- 6 |
| (R01.5) General F-S Small Freighter | 0.33 | BS-2011-SSD- 3/CL23 Pg- 10 |
| (R01.5) General F-S (Base/Military Eng) Small Freighter W/Out Pods & Military Engines | 0.33 | BS-1999- 3 |
| (R01.5) General F-S + GS + PC Small Freighter + General Skid + Cargo Pod | 0.33 | SFT43 Pg- 4 |
| (R01.5) General F-S + 2xP-CC + S-DT Small Freighter Two Pod Configuration With Ducktail | 0.33 | SFT43 Pg- 8 |
| (R01.5) General F-S (Base) Small Freighter W/Out Pods | 0.33 | BS-1999- 3 |
| (R9910.5) Josers F-S Small Freighter | 0.33 | SFT18 Pg- 3 |
| (R01.12A) General F-MS Small Mine-Laying Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 6/AM- 6 |
| (R01.20) General F-AS - PL-D Small D-Rack-Armed Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 19/AM- 19 |
| (R01.20) General F-AS - P2 Small Phaser-Armed Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 18/AM- 18 |
| (R01.20) General F-AS - PL-F Small Plasma-Armed Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 19/AM- 19 |
| (R01.20) General F-AS - Disr Small Disruptor-Armed Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 20/AM- 20 |
| (R01.20) General F-AS - Drone Small Drone-Armed Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 17/AM- 17 |
| (R01.20) General F-AS Small Armed Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 17/AM- 17 |
| (R04.20) Romulan F-AS - PL-F Small Plasma-Armed Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 19/AM- 19 |
| (R06.20) Gorn F-AS - PL-F Small Plasma-Armed Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 19/AM- 19 |
| (R49.20) Tholian HG F-AS - PC Small Particle Cannon Armed Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 17/AM- 17 |
| (R08.20) Orion F-AS - PL-F Small Plasma-Armed Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 19/AM- 19 |
| (R09.20) Hydran F-AS - Fus Small Fusion-Armed Freighter | 0.33 | C1-1994- 9 |
| (R18.20) Paravian F-AS - QWT Small Quantum Wave Torpedo Armed Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 20/C6 Pg- 26 |
| (R502.20) Borak F-AS - P-C Small Phaser Cannon Armed Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 17/AM- 17 |
| (R9103.20) Indirigan F-PS Small Armed Freighter | 0.33 | AM-2014-SSD- 17/AM- 17 |
| (R01.25A) General F-RS Small Repair Freighter | 0.33 | R01- 6 |
| (R01.26A) General F-ES Small Exploration Freighter | 0.33 | R01- 8 |
| (R01.36) General F-PS Small Prospecting Freighter | 0.33 | F1- 47 |
| (R01.78) General SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 8 |
| (R02.78) Federation SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 8 |
| (R03.78) Klingon SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 8 |
| (R04.78) Romulan SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 8 |
| (R05.78) Kzinti SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 8 |
| (R06.78) Gorn SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 8 |
| (R07.78) Tholian SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 8 |
| (R09.78) Hydran SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 8 |
| (R11.78) Lyran SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 8 |
| (R13.78) ISC SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 8 |
| (R14.78) LDR SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 8 |
| (R15.78) Seltorian SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 8 |
| (R17.78) Vudar SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 8 |
| (R18.78) Paravian SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | C6 Pg- 30/R11- 8 |
| (R19.78) Carnivon SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | C6 Pg- 66/R11- 8 |
| (R502.78) Borak SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | E3 Pg- 16/R11- 8 |
| (R503.78) Peladine SAS Small Auxiliary Scout Freighter | 0.33 | E4 Pg- 8/R11- 8 |
| (R01.82) General F-SF Small Fast Freighter | 0.33 | R11- 12 |
| (R01.94) General SAL Small Manufacturing Freighter | 0.33 | R12- 10 |
| (R04.J61) Romulan FRTW Warp Powered Freighter | 0.33 | R04J- 56 |
| (R08.11) Orion F-S Small Freighters | 0.33 | BS-1999- 3 |
| (R9102.52) Argonian F-AS Small Armed Freighter | 0.33 | CGA2 Pg- 38 |
| (R9103.15) Indirigan F-M Medium Freighter | 0.33 | CGI1 Pg- 37 |
| (R9103.16) Indirigan F-AM Medium Armed Freighter | 0.33 | CGI1 Pg- 38 |
| (R9103.17) Indirigan F-S Small Freighter | 0.33 | CGI1 Pg- 39 |
| (R9103.18) Indirigan F-AS Small Armed Freighter | 0.33 | CGI1 Pg- 40 |
| (R9106.13) Corporate Aggressors F-AS Small Armed Freighter | 0.33 | CGFS1 Pg- 21 |
| (R01.SG85.46) General F-S (SG85.46 #2) Local Defense Freighter #2 | 0.33 | R11 Pg- 46 |
| (R01.SG85.46) General F-S (SG85.46 #1) Local Defense Freighter #1 | 0.33 | R11 Pg- 46 |
| (R01.YR1.5) General UFS Small Early Freighter | 0.33 | Y2- 4 |
| (R01.YR1.20) General YF-AS Early Years Small Armed Freighter | 0.33 | Y3- 5 |
| (R03.YR1.20) Klingon YF-AS Early Years Small Armed Freighter | 0.33 | Y3- 5 |
| (R06.YR1.20) Gorn YF-AS Early Years Small Armed Freighter | 0.33 | Y3- 5 |
| (R18.YR1.20) Paravian YF-AS Early Years Small Armed Freighter | 0.33 | Y3- 5 |
| (R01.YR1.26A) General YF-ES Early Years Small Exploration Freighter | 0.33 | Y3- 7 |
| (R03.YR1.26A) Klingon YF-ES Early Years Small Exploration Freighter | 0.33 | Y3- 7 |
| (R06.YR1.26A) Gorn YF-ES Early Years Small Exploration Freighter | 0.33 | Y3- 7 |
| (R13.YR1.26A) ISC YF-ES Early Years Small Exploration Freighter | 0.33 | Y3- 7 |
| (R18.YR1.26A) Paravian YF-ES Early Years Small Exploration Freighter | 0.33 | Y3- 7 |
| (R404.32) Maghadim FRT Freighter | 0.5 | C5- 87 |
| (R01.6) General F-L (Base) Large Freighter W/Out Pods | 0.5 | BS-1999- 4 |
| (R01.6) General F-L + 2xS-DT Large Freighters + Skid | 0.5 | SFT43 Pg- 5 |
| (R01.6) General F-L + L-DT Large Freighter In Ballast With Ducktail | 0.5 | SFT43 Pg- 7 |
| (R01.6) General F-L (Base/Military Eng) Large Freighter W/Out Pods & Military Engines | 0.5 | BS-1999- 4 |
| (R01.6) General F-L + L-DT + 3xP-CC Large Freighter Three Pod Configuration With Ducktail | 0.5 | SFT43 Pg- 9 |
| (R01.6) General F-L Large Freighters | 0.5 | BS-2011-SSD- 4/BS-1999- 4 |
| (R01.6) General F-L + WB Large Freighters + 2xSkid + Ducktail | 0.5 | CL23 Pg- 52 |
| (R01.12B) General F-ML Large Mine-Laying Freighter | 0.5 | AM-2014-SSD- 7/AM- 7 |
| (R01.21) General F-AL - Drone Large Drone-Armed Freighter | 0.5 | AM-2014-SSD- 21/AM- 21 |
| (R01.21) General F-AL - P2 Large Phaser-Armed Freighter | 0.5 | AM-2014-SSD- 22/AM- 22 |
| (R01.21) General F-AL - Fus Large Fusion-Armed Freighter | 0.5 | C1-1994- 10 |
| (R01.21) General F-AL - Disr Large Disruptor-Armed Freighter | 0.5 | AM-2014-SSD- 24/AM- 24 |
| (R01.21) General F-AL Large Armed Freighter | 0.5 | AM-2014-SSD- 21/AM- 21 |
| (R01.21) General F-AL - PL-D Large Plasma-Armed Freighter | 0.5 | AM-2014-SSD- 23/AM- 23 |
| (R01.21) General F-AL - PL-F Large Plasma-Armed Freighter | 0.5 | AM-2014-SSD- 23/AM- 23 |
| (R06.21) Gorn F-AL - PL-F Large Plasma-Armed Freighter | 0.5 | AM-2014-SSD- 23/AM- 23 |
| (R49.21) Tholian HG F-AL - PC Large Particle Cannon Armed Freighter | 0.5 | AM-2014-SSD- 21/AM- 21 |
| (R08.21) Orion F-AL - PL-F Large Plasma-Armed Freighter | 0.5 | AM-2014-SSD- 23/AM- 23 |
| (R18.21) Paravian F-AL - QWT Large Quantum Wave Torpedo-Armed Freighter | 0.5 | AM-2014-SSD- 24/C6 Pg- 26 |
| (R01.25B) General F-RL Large Repair Freighter | 0.5 | R01- 5 |
| (R01.26B) General F-EL Large Exploration Freighter | 0.5 | R01- 7 |
| (R01.37) General F-PL Large Prospecting Freighter | 0.5 | F1- 48 |
| (R01.62) General F-HL Large Hospital Freighter | 0.5 | R08- 15 |
| (R01.R1.GRP) General GRP-F Freighter Convoy | 0.5 | SSDB-04- 16 |
| (R01.T) General F-AL-T Large Phaser-Armed Tournament Freighter | 0.5 | SFT42 Pg- 9 |
| (R08.11) Orion F-L Large Freighters | 0.5 | BS-1999- 4 |
| (R9102.51) Argonian FLEF Large Energy Flux Armed Freighter | 0.5 | CGA2 Pg- 37 |
| (R9102.78) Argonian F-LSE Large Strobe-Equipped Freighter | 0.5 | CGA3 Pg- 23 |
| (R9103.13) Indirigan F-L Large Freighter | 0.5 | CGI1 Pg- 35 |
| (R9103.14) Indirigan F-AL Large Armed Freighter | 0.5 | CGI1 Pg- 35 |
| (R9106.14) Corporate Aggressors F-AL Large Armed Freighter | 0.5 | CGFS1 Pg- 22 |
| (R301.2) General Omega FS Small Freighter | 0.5 | CL20 Pg- 100 |
| (R302.16) Maesron FBS Small Battle Freighter | 0.5 | CL21 Pg- 112 |
| (R9910.14) Josers F-L Large Freighters | 0.5 | SFT18 Pg- 3 |
| (R01.YR1.4) General UFL Early Large Freighter | 0.5 | Y2- 3 |
| (R01.YR1.21) General YF-AL Early Years Large Armed Freighter | 0.5 | Y3- 6 |
| (R06.YR1.21) Gorn YF-AL Early Years Large Armed Freighter | 0.5 | Y3- 6 |
| (R13.YR1.21) ISC YF-AL Early Years Large Armed Freighter | 0.5 | Y3- 6 |
| (R18.YR1.21) Paravian YF-AL Early Years Large Armed Freighter | 0.5 | Y3- 6 |
| (R01.YR1.26B) General YF-EL Early Years Large Exploration Freighter | 0.5 | Y3- 8 |
| (R06.YR1.26B) Gorn YF-EL Early Years Large Exploration Freighter | 0.5 | Y3- 8 |
| (R13.YR1.26B) ISC YF-EL Early Years Large Exploration Freighter | 0.5 | Y3- 8 |
| (R18.YR1.26B) Paravian YF-EL Early Years Large Exploration Freighter | 0.5 | Y3- 8 |
| (R01.A34) General F-AJ-P2 Jumbo Phaser-2 Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 121 |
| (R01.A34) General F-AJ-Disr Jumbo Disruptor Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 121 |
| (R01.A34) General F-AJ-Drone Jumbo Drone Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 121 |
| (R01.A34) General F-AJ-Fusion Jumbo Fusion Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 121 |
| (R01.A34) General F-AJ-Pl-D Jumbo Plasma-D Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 121 |
| (R01.A34) General F-AJ Jumbo Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 121 |
| (R01.A34) General F-AJ-PC Jumbo Particle Cannon Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 121 |
| (R01.A34) General F-AJ-Pl-F Jumbo Plasma-F Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 121 |
| (R01.A35) General F-AH-Disr Heavy Disruptor Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 122 |
| (R01.A35) General F-AH-PC Heavy Particle Cannon Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 122 |
| (R01.A35) General F-AH-P2 Heavy Phaser-2 Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 122 |
| (R01.A35) General F-AH-Pl-D Heavy Pl-D Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 122 |
| (R01.A35) General F-AH-Pl-F Heavy Pl-F Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 122 |
| (R01.A35) General F-AH-Drone Heavy Drone Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 122 |
| (R01.A35) General F-AH Heavy Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 122 |
| (R01.A35) General F-AH-Fusion Heavy Fusion Armed-Freighter | 1 | CL52 Pg- 122 |
| (R04.Y11) Romulan FRT Sublight Freighter | 1 | Y2- 40 |
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, November 19, 2025 - 09:15 pm: Edit |
Too much clutter. I just need the pure cargo and ballast ships.
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