Tos: Possibly they would not be interested as they have huge marketing budgets, but maybe.

By Kerry Drake (Kedrake) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 02:26 pm: Edit

SVC you could StarFire - Star Fire Design Studio to the mix.

http://www.starfiredesign.com/starfire/index2.html

mrlamb@acd.net

By Michael Powers (Mtpowers) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 03:18 pm: Edit

Battlefleet Gothic seems to be run by Specialist Games these days.

I think somebody is a little ticked...

By Will McCammon (Djdood) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 03:49 pm: Edit

Missing FedCom and F&E from the list above (not that they would be forgotten).

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 03:53 pm: Edit

No, they're on the list....

By Scott Tenhoff (Scottt) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 03:55 pm: Edit

What kind of cover are you going to have for this?

A fancy color Giebel one, or other artist? Or B/W?

Isn't that going to be one of the deciding factors in the endeavor, having to get X,XXX copies of the cover then printing them yourself?

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 04:03 pm: Edit

We'd probably use Geibel for the first ones and if any other artists wanted to do a cover they could contact us.

In theory we'd print a thousand covers and then print insides as needed.

By Clell Flint (Clell) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 04:31 pm: Edit

Silent Death & Space Master - Iron Crown Enterprises

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 05:13 pm: Edit

Updated List

A Call to Arms - Mongoose
Attack Vector Tactical -- Ad Astra Games
Arclight - Second Rat Games
Battle Fleet Gothic - Games Workshop
Battlestations - Gorilla Games
D6 Space - West End Games
Federation & Empire- ADB
Federation Commander- ADB
Full Thrust - Ground Zero Games
GURPS Space -- Steve Jackson Games
Prime Directive - ADB
Saganami Island - Ad Astra Games
Silent Death - Iron Crown Enterprises
Space Master - Iron Crown Enterprises
Star Fleet Battle Force - ADB
Star Fleet Battles - ADB
Starfire - Starfire Design Studio
Starmada - Majestic 12 Games
Transhuman Space - Steve Jackson Games

By Scott Tenhoff (Scottt) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 05:17 pm: Edit

Battlefleet Gothic, even though run by "Specialist Games", is owned by Games Workshop, and Specialist Games is their "low-demand" section which trys to take care of it.

By Ken Rodeghero (Ken_Rodeghero) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 05:48 pm: Edit

Starmada is made by Majestic 12 Games.

www.mj12games.com

Ken

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 06:08 pm: Edit

We have 19 games on the list, which would be (at four pages each) 76 pages. A more realistic total would be 48 or 64 pages. The question is can you get 12 game-systems to sign up? Certainly, ADB and AA together could do a lot of pages, but it would defeat the whole point if we didn't have at least 10 game engines.

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 06:16 pm: Edit

Within the GURPS Space area, you also have GURPS Transhuman Space and GURPS Traveller. Actually, with GURPS Traveller, you have the old classic GURPS Traveller and the new GURPS Traveller: Interstellar Wars.

And on the Traveller front, you also have QLI at (http://www.travellerrpg.com/), who make the d20 version of Traveller (T20).

Oh, and, if you like you SF darkly light, then there is always Paranoia XP from Mongoose.

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 06:37 pm: Edit

While I am not sure if this is a good idea (since CLog is late as it is). I would like to go on record to say that I have all your Nexus Mags and all of your CLogs, in short if you print it I will buy it.

By Gary Bear (Gunner) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 06:37 pm: Edit

Is this any space game (RPGs included) or only space SHIP games?

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 07:53 pm: Edit

Another possible addition to the list:

Imperium 3rd Millenium - Avalanche Press

By Marc Gillham (Mgillham) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 08:11 pm: Edit

This sounds like a very exciting project and one that I, as a consumer, would be be keen to see and would certainly buy.

Would you consider expanding the scope of the magazine to be broadly similar to that of the old GDW Challenge magazine, i.e. anything that isn't fantasy? If so, you are potentially looking at old and still popular lines such as Call of Cthulhu.

If not, I would tentatively suggest the following additions to the line (apologies but they are all SFRPGs rather than board games)

Star Hero - Hero Games (http://www.herogames.com/StarHero/index.htm)
Pulp Hero, in its Flash Gordon style incarnation, called "Solar Smith" - Hero Games (http://www.herogames.com/pulphero/)
Space 1889 (http://www.heliograph.com/space1889/)
Forgotten Futures (http://www.forgottenfutures.com/)
Timelord (http://www.torsononline.com/hobbies/timelord/main.htm)

What about Traveller, mustn't forget Traveller, or is that too close to competing with SJG's JTAS?

By Dean Gundberg (Star_Ranger) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 08:14 pm: Edit

Some additional games:

Armada: Assault Fleet - Happy Nebula Adventures
Battlespace/Aerotech 2 - Fanpro
Button Wars: Empires and Overlords - Guild of Blades
Diceland: Space - Steve Jackson Games
Dying Lights - GhazPORK Industrial
Galactic Knights - Monday Knight Productions
Iron Stars - Majestic 12 Games
Lightning Strike - Dream Pod 9
Noble Armada - Holistic Design
Power Projection - BITS UK Limited
Quad-S - Powercell Games
Rocketmen - Wizkids
A Sky Full of Ships - Hardpoint Games
Starfight - Beer & Pretzel Games
Starship! - Flagship Games
Space Dreadnought 3000 - Kallistra Ltd
Star Blazers Fleet Battle System - Musashi Enterprises, Inc.
Victory By Any Means - VBAM Games

I do not expect all of these to have pages for a magazine, but you have to check them all to be sure.

By Tos Crawford (Tos) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 08:46 pm: Edit

Would the audience be any larger if it were targeted at sci-fi rather than space?

By Russell J. Manning (Rjmanning) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 11:38 pm: Edit

How about Classic Battletech - http://www.classicbattletech.com/cbt_home.html

By Sean Bartholome (Kana) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 11:57 pm: Edit

As much as I like Starfire...I would stay away from it like the plague right now...there are 3 factions right now fighting over what type of game, and the direction it is going...

Sean B.

By Marc Gillham (Mgillham) on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 04:44 am: Edit

Power Projection - BITS (http://www.powerprojection.net/). This is a starship combat game in the Traveller universe, based on Full Thrust.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 10:45 am: Edit

I am still in the "isn't this a fun idea to talk about" phase and haven't decided anything. In some regards, you want as big a net as possible to grather enough pages to go to press. If by dumb luck you get 43 companies sending in 256 pages then you have something of a problem. But remember that "announce it when we have enough on hand" phase? That announcement could include the size and price, which could be anything. And if you dont' even have the first issue out and have twice as much stuff as you can use for the second, it's just not a crisis.

I don't guess I knew that starfire was still active.

I wouldn't consider Cthulu (much as I love it) to be a scifi game.

One possibility would be two magazines, one about RPGs and one about everything else. Sounds like there are enough lines/companies out there IF AND ONLY IF a bunch of them sign on.

By Marc Gillham (Mgillham) on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 12:56 pm: Edit

SVC, you are of course right that traditional Cthulhu is not a scifi game. I only ask on the off-chance you might consider expanding the scope of the project to be that of the old Challenge magazine (i.e. anything that isn't fantasy). If not, well that's okay by me too. The project is just as exciting to me with me a pure scifi brief.

Mind you, I have seen Cthulhu games that were set in the future and would definitely fall under the defintion of scifi. I recall one from an old issue of White Dwarf regarding a rescue mission sent to a remote planet to pick up a missing survey team (who had, of course, been eaten by Cthulhoid nasties). Much fun.

By Dale McKee (Brigman) on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 02:20 pm: Edit

Firefly's got an RPG out nowadays too - I forget who puts it out.