Archive through September 18, 2021
Star Fleet Universe Discussion Board: Captain's Log: CL55 Double Nickel Edition:
Archive through September 18, 2021
I think maybe Jay was asking for an updated version of the old Commander's SSD rather than a new ship.
I will make a note to have Petrick do an updated one for the newsletter.
Thanks Steve that’s what I meant an updated from commanders book
Could we get the The Klingon ship from the same CL updated as well? The one with two Photons, one Forward and one Aft.
I know what he was asking for. I was suggesting that instead of keeping the customized warship as part of the SFU history, it should be retroactively changed into a more appropriate standard ship that provides similar advantages. (Ships that didn't exist back when the Hammerfield was first published.) By retconning it, you eliminate the exception that causes requests for similar ships by making it a standard ship.
Same for the Doomslayer. Maybe it should just be a D7L, and the story of its photon torpedos were just tri-vid dramatizations.
The Klingon ship is less problematic from a universe explanation, as it was modified by the Masters. Were it is a problem is with IP, as it mirrors the franchise movie=era D7 with its torpedo placements.
The D7 in the movie used photons. If there is an IP issue maybe keep the fore/aft placement but replace the photons with a different non-standard weapon.
Plasma and disruptors on the same ship might be interesting. Or, disruptors cannons if you want a direct fire weapon with punch.
As I recall - the Doomslayer added photon replaced the probe launcher and was not fired from the "sensor" dish as was done in STTMP...
I was going to say make the Hammerfield a BCH and the Doomslayer a C7, but I just realized that I think the scenario takes place way before Y180. So ... not so much.
Anyway, when doing updated versions of the ships, please lean into what they are: the Hammerfield is a modified CA (not BC) and the Doomslayer is a modified D7C (not D7L). It will be fun to see what SPP decides to do with the Hammerfield's shields.
One thing you are all forgetting, or perhaps never realized, is that refits came to us by way of those stories and scenarios.
There was, for example, no shield or phaser refit for the Lyran heavy cruiser, until the Lyran ship in "the first round" demonstrated it. Essentially, if you were to play the first round today, you would simply use a refitted Lyran CA.
The Hammerfield sports what pretty much became the Orion Plus Refit with its shields (actually, a little weaker even then the eventual published refit for heavy cruisers). But note that the Heavensent, which is the actual ship used, played in the scenario without the refit, even though the year says it is there.
Note that the Fed has the AWR refit, but was before the refit became standardized in the game, i.e., it has the APRs and note saying to use them as AWRs but they are still hit on APRs, because the AWR refit had not been invented yet.
So, if I have to do this mess, which it seems I must, I am not (NOT) going to be doing anything with the Hammerfield's shields. They are improved in Y169 by the plus refit which was long before they ship disappeared in Y180. Basically I have the fun of trying to work out the ship's "new refit history." And it is already giving me a headache.
Wish out there would do aomebody would do a omega sector story
Oh, the inspirations are obvious. Plus, I got to watch a lot of the history myself. 
I imagine the Hammerfield's center engine was also inspiration for the BCH engine configuration.
And, just to add to SPP's headaches, one thing I think would be cool to "steal" from the Hammerfield: There should be an Orion "Hydran refit" that allows them to replace their rear Ph-3s with Ph-Gs (most likely not on a one-for-one ratio) at the cost of using them in option mounts. The refit would also replace non-option wing drones with fusions. I've always wanted to see a refit like that to provide some extra Hydran "flavor" to Orion ships.
(It would be different for them than, say, the Lyrans, because the Lyrans can just use Orion ships straight up. Hydrans have to make extensive modifications just to be able to use them. Why not swap out unfamiliar weapons for the familiar while making the other modifications?)
Mike West:
Not going to happen.
Can’t remember was there ever an operation unity fiction story
I do not think so (re: Operation Unity fiction). At least nothing comes to mind short of the short history of the Andromedan war.
Like to see somebody do one
And what would it be? Note that Unity took a couple of years and most fiction stories cover a couple of days at most. What, besides the setting (the deep space between two galaxies) is going to be the point? It is battle between Andromedans and someone else. Which could just as easily be a two day fight in the Alpha Octant, and we have a few fiction stories for those (including the one the last Captain's Log). I do not have a problem with you asking, I just have a hard time imagining what such a story is going to be that is not a rendition of something in the Alpha Octant where the Andromedans are encountered, or attacking.
That exciting time when two Dominators show up at a galactic base with little warning. Hydrans and Lyrans and Klingons, oh my.
Now say it like George Taki ohhh myyyy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZTyfRD5--8
Kind of like to see a fiction story set I. The prewar time period
Were there any ships intended for R4J or R4T that, for whatever reason, didn't get in to those products?
Jeff Anderson:
No.
How about a W-technology Warhawk Carrier?
The alternate history does say that the Romulans continued to use sublight fighters for a couple of decades after developing tactical warp. Perhaps they converted a couple of carriers before realizing they wouldn't be able to apply the new technology to something as small as a fighter. It also may not have been immediately obvious that sublight fighters would be a liability for a warp-refited squadron.
The carriers might later have been retired to local defense, training, or a fighter resupply role.
Douglas Saldana:
Honestly, I considered the Romulan fighter situation, and given the existence of warp capable admin shuttles a warp capable fighter was obviously possible. But its weapons were not. Fighters cannot "bolt" plasma torpedoes, and if these could, then the later ones could, but they cannot. The upshot was that there was no reason to develop a warp capable carrier for them as they lacked any significant capability if they were not based on a planet (to intercept Gorn Shuttles landing marines).