I forgot only laser-armed fighters would be in service when warp became available and seeking-plasma sublight fighters weren't introduced (in the main timeline) until Y88. So, presumeably, seeking-plasma sublight fighters were never developed in the alternate history?

I think that means the reference to the alternate Romulans continuing to operate "fighters and bombers" for a couple of decades (after Y72) is partially incorrect because I don't think there are any bombers with a YIS prior to Y88 and there are no sublight bombers with a laser-only armament.

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Saturday, September 18, 2021 - 01:52 pm: Edit

Douglas Saldana:

The fighters (and bombers) were operated from planets to repel Gorn invaders. There is no advantage to being a warp powered shuttle over a sublight shuttle in an atmosphere, so sublight fighters remained operable in such circumstances, being able to shoot down the (unarmed) Gorn shuttles and drop Cluster Bombs on Gorn ground troops in support of Romulan ground troops. They had no use in space combat versus ships, as noted (other than as targets). So there is just no reason for a carrier and no carrier was presented.

By Jay Gustason (Jay20) on Sunday, September 19, 2021 - 11:20 am: Edit

How about class history of the wyn battle cruiser

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Sunday, September 19, 2021 - 07:20 pm: Edit

Has the WYN "Flat Jumbo" had a history or story.

By Jay Gustason (Jay20) on Monday, September 20, 2021 - 03:01 pm: Edit

Don’t know.

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Tuesday, September 21, 2021 - 12:10 pm: Edit

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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, September 21, 2021 - 09:01 pm: Edit

Theater transport = target

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Wednesday, September 22, 2021 - 12:44 am: Edit

Yes, and they wouldn't be the first targets done. Plus, they as close to the request as I could think of.

But, if they aren't sexy enough, sure, I get that.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, September 22, 2021 - 07:42 am: Edit

It's not what I think is sexy, it's what players think. They tend not to be interested in targets. The only people interested in those transports would be people who want their name on a ship they proposed and people who play some kind of campaign.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Wednesday, September 22, 2021 - 08:33 am: Edit

Are snipes even big enough to be worth making into theatre transports? Those things are awful.

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Wednesday, September 22, 2021 - 09:30 am: Edit

Those are obvious variants, so no one gets their name on the ships. (Well, other than maybe SPP if he wants it.) But point is taken. It would be nice to see them appear somewhere.

Also, for Richard's point, they wouldn't be a "full" transport. They would be able to carry a Romulan cargo palette only. No pods, not even civilian pods. (Obviously, they can still carry ground bases and such.) But, yes, they are not that impressive. They are still very useful to the Romulans, but they are definitely not impressive.

By Jay Gustason (Jay20) on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - 04:38 pm: Edit

How about a scenario juggernaut verses space dragons

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - 05:38 pm: Edit

So, write it and submit it. Note that you will need to research the two sides carefully to balance the scenario. If you want a new variant Juggernaut you will need to seek permission Fromm SVC. Note that you are open to terrain selections for it (maybe a planet the dragons are using for a nesting site). Also see, I think, Captain's Log #35 for the Monster Article on Space Dragons. There has not been an article on Juggernauts yet as SVC wants that eventual article held for now, so I have not done any work on it and have no idea when it will be done, we did a list of all existing monsters when we started doing the articles and determined an order of publication (which was also an order of development), but Jean has since used her veto power to demand that monster be inserted (she insists she had no idea that we had a publication schedule set up).

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - 05:48 pm: Edit

I don't know that anyone needs an A-vs-B scenario; they can do that for themselves without anyone writing it up.

By Douglas Saldana (Dsal) on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - 06:04 pm: Edit

For a real David and Goliath how about Juggernaut vs. Nicozians?

By Jessica Orsini (Jessica_Orsini) on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - 09:19 pm: Edit

That'd be hilarious.

"A challenge has wakened me, and I prepare for...wait. Where are you? I can sense you, but where are you?"

"We're in your tailpipe. FIRE!"

By Jay Gustason (Jay20) on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - 09:22 pm: Edit

Fed police cutters vrs juggernaut

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - 10:10 pm: Edit

550 Fralli shuttles vs. Juggernaut Delta.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - 10:18 pm: Edit

To follow on from the Operation Unity question from earlier in the thread, there is also a brief reference to it in the Sakharov article from Captain's Log #51; while there is a passing glance at Unity's "dark future" couterpart, Operation Codominion, in the Return of the Darwin story from Captain's Log #54.

I'd consider Operation Unity (and Operation Codominion, for that matter) to have plenty of potential for new and interesting stories to be told. Not least in terms of the various "First Contacts" which take place between the holdout Lesser Magellanic Cloud forces and the Unity task forces once the latter reach the LMC proper. Or, as portrayed in the (MSH9.0) JOINT OPERATIONS scenario from SFB Module C5, the unexpected difficulties faced when Alpha and Magellanic ships (in this instance, the Klingons and Eneen) began fighting on the same side against the Andromedan invaders.

By Jay Gustason (Jay20) on Wednesday, September 29, 2021 - 11:29 am: Edit

Juggernaut versus planet killer

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Wednesday, September 29, 2021 - 01:27 pm: Edit

I had thought that Jay Gustafson was asking about more than simply putting counters on the map. I thought he was asking about scenario creation to be an interesting challenge for the players. Not simply taking an ancient space dragon and attacking a Juggernaut. If such was not intended, then I apologize.

By Douglas Saldana (Dsal) on Wednesday, September 29, 2021 - 05:17 pm: Edit

Since the Juggernauts show some ability to learn and adapt I wonder how one would account for that in a "Juggernaut Campaign". Say if you had to play a series of scenarios against successive Juggernauts. The 1st Juggernaut encountered (Alpha) would always look the same but the characteristics of Beta and Gamma might vary based on what weapons or tactics were used against their predecessors.

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Thursday, September 30, 2021 - 12:11 pm: Edit

Here's a kind of off-the-wall suggestion for Battlegroup 550, "Allies".

Design a force consisting of ships from two different empires, with each empire contributing a minimum of 150 points to the total force. They wouldn't have to be historical allies. If you think a Kzinti/Lyran force would be fun, go for it! In general, players would look for particularly effective synergies for their forces.

Each combination of empires could only be used once. So if someone submitted a Federation/Hydran force, another player would be free to submit a Federation/Drex force and a third could submit a Federation/ISC force, and so on. I recall at least one Battlegroup 550 that I didn't participate in because someone beat me to the punch in posting a submission for my preferred empire (Tholians). In an "Allies" Battlegroup 550, I could still have submitted a partial Tholian force so long as the allied empire was different.

I would also like to see this Battlegroup 550 allow limited use of X-ships, something that is usually prohibited. As I understand it, ADB doesn't like X-sips in Battlegroup 550 because not every empire has them; and this is deemed unfair and would discourage the use fo those empires. But if the rules allowed each combined force to include either one X-tech cruiser or up to two size class-4 X-ships, players who wanted to try an LMC empire, for example, could still ally it with an Alpha empire and field X-ships from the latter.

By Mike Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Thursday, September 30, 2021 - 02:45 pm: Edit

Hydrans plus Tholians with web casters

By Jay Gustason (Jay20) on Thursday, September 30, 2021 - 04:24 pm: Edit

Was there ever a story on the first x ship that ever flew