Fed Strike carriers was in CL9

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Wednesday, October 12, 2022 - 08:51 pm: Edit

The Federation Fleet Carriers was published in CL 9 and covered all the CA hulled carriers published at the time.

The three CVB ships are the USS Nelson, USS Gorshkov, and USS Sam Houston.

Along with the unpublished CV History.

CVB-1953 Nelson was completed in Y169, based on a heavy cruiser hull with larger hangar bays, allowing it to operate F-15s. It went to the Klingon Border (3rd Fleet) to replace the recalled Yamamoto. Heavily damaged by the Klingons in Y174 (SH70), it was repaired and returned to combat as the flagship of Commodore Stevens. The ship remained in continuous action, and fought the Klingon 77th Gunboat Division in Y181 (SH29). The ship was operating on the left flank of the Klingon Front near Tholian space in Y183 (SH233). It was badly damaged in Y185 and not repaired, being scrapped after the General War ended.

CVB-1954 Gorshkov was completed in Y170 as new construction based on a heavy cruiser hull with a larger hangar deck in Y170 and sent to the Romulan Border (6th Fleet) with F-4 fighters, then converted to F-15s a few months later when they became available. It returned to the Home Fleet in Y171 just before the Klingon Invasion. It fought on the Klingon Front for the entire war. It fought Lyrans in Y181 (SH72) and attacked Klingon positions in Blackfoot Pass in Y184 (SH39). It was retired at the end of the General War.

CVB-1956 Sam Houston was completed in Y171 as new construction and F-15s. She went to the Klingon Border days after the Klingon Invasion, direct from her trials. Fought there more of the war, but was detached in Y175 for an anti-piracy campaign (T4). Survived the General War and was used against the Andromedans in several missions, but was found obsolescent and used to defend Rigel from Andromedan attack.

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Wednesday, October 12, 2022 - 08:55 pm: Edit

The Federation National Guards also got about 20 GFFs. A number of them show up in scenarios and history articles.

By Mike Erickson (Mike_Erickson) on Wednesday, October 12, 2022 - 10:19 pm: Edit

>> original three CVAs would be of the old design, and all further builds and all upgrades would have been the DN-based heavy carrier

I like this idea.

--Mike

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Thursday, October 13, 2022 - 07:26 am: Edit

Oh, good. I wasn't imagining things! However, CL9 is so long ago that it probably wasn't labeled as a "Class History", so therefore isn't listed in the Captain's Log Index.

Anyway, I still think an updated version of a Class History article covering all of the carriers based on the Heavy/Command Cruiser hull would be cool and worth doing.

By Lodaste on Tuesday, November 08, 2022 - 09:53 pm: Edit

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By LIELIAJAT on Saturday, December 03, 2022 - 09:45 am: Edit

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By Jay Gustason (Jay20) on Friday, December 23, 2022 - 04:02 pm: Edit

Want more x ships

By Mike West (Mjwest) on Friday, December 23, 2022 - 04:49 pm: Edit

For Federation Commander, some of the ships from R4J would be cool. Say the QWE and QSTE. And since I don't think they have been done, the BHB and one other.

By Jay Gustason (Jay20) on Saturday, December 24, 2022 - 02:31 pm: Edit

Fed pol x ship

By Mike Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Sunday, December 25, 2022 - 11:04 am: Edit

It's called a FFX.

By Ginger McMurray (Gingermcmurray) on Sunday, December 25, 2022 - 12:35 pm: Edit

I'd love a breakdown of what years ISC ships get their F-torp refits. C2 has a great section but some of the older modules need to be updated to show specific timeframes.

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Sunday, December 25, 2022 - 03:16 pm: Edit

(R13.R) ISC Fleet Refit: (R13.R1), (R13.R2), (R13.R3).

By Ginger McMurray (Gingermcmurray) on Sunday, December 25, 2022 - 03:26 pm: Edit

It changes for different ships and the SSDs are sometimes wrong. For instance some SSDs say Y179 but the ship's R section says its available as early as Y171.

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Sunday, December 25, 2022 - 06:43 pm: Edit

I think the later time is for when it is available in squadrons, the earlier time are when only a few or limited numbers have the refit and are available. (In a player Campaign perhaps, availability could be 10% Y171, 25% Y175, and 75%-100% Y179-Y181).

By Jamey Johnston (Totino) on Sunday, December 25, 2022 - 07:08 pm: Edit

Ginger, the SSD listing for refits (generally) follows the "fleet adaptation date" which is a convenience for S8.0, which "requires all applicable refits" unless you get explicit agreement from your opponent.

IOW, when playing patrol scenarios in Y175 you "have" to pay for Y175 refits, and in the ISC case you would "have" to pay for the F-torps in Y179 or later. This would be similar to K refits for Klingons. For most ships, you "must" pay for it Y175+, which is what's listed on the SSD for convenience. If you go look in the R section, you can find some ships received K refits as early as Y169, but that's not on the SSD. Y169-Y174 K refits are optional, same as the Y171-Y178 period for rear plasma refits.

Hope that clears that up?

By Eddie E Crutchfield (Librarian101) on Sunday, December 25, 2022 - 09:41 pm: Edit

If I remember correctly when the ISC first came out they came out as full ships, rather than building forward and adding refits they were deducted from the full ship, which at the time resulted in several dates for the various refits depending on when the classes were introduced.

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Wednesday, December 28, 2022 - 11:36 am: Edit

In the Tholian Master Starship Book, I believe there is a reference to a Tholian "heavy" Space Control Ship, which combines the NSCS modifications with a collar used by the Neo-Tholian Heavy Dreadnought. (I am at my brother's home for Christmas - away from my books. I can cite a specific rule number next week when I get back home.) But there is no SSD for this "heavy" NSCS. Would it be possible to include one in CL55?

By Jay Gustason (Jay20) on Wednesday, December 28, 2022 - 12:16 pm: Edit

Fed x ships with plasma torpedoes

By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Wednesday, December 28, 2022 - 01:16 pm: Edit

Hey Alan? I don't recall having ever seen any Archaeo-Tholian ships using the Particle Cannon. Have you ever experimented with them? The Destroyer can be particularly nasty (albeit shorter on power with them than with Disruptors).

SVC, SPP, if they've not been printed, perhaps CL55 could be a place to do so?

By Ken Kazinski (Kjkazinski) on Wednesday, December 28, 2022 - 03:53 pm: Edit

The ship is mentioned in (R7.65).

By Jay Gustason (Jay20) on Saturday, December 31, 2022 - 07:20 pm: Edit

What ever happens to the paravian quantum wave torpedoes once they arrived in the omega sector

By Jay Gustason (Jay20) on Wednesday, January 04, 2023 - 12:20 pm: Edit

It be kind of fun to see what or if the paravins encountered anything hostile on there way to the omega sector

By Alan Trevor (Thyrm) on Wednesday, January 04, 2023 - 12:56 pm: Edit

Jeff Anderson,

I would prefer to see the "heavy" NSCS in CL55, rather than Archeo-Tholians with particle cannons. As mentioned above, the heavy NSCS is already referenced in the SFU (Tholian Master Starship Book); there's just no SSD for it. Archeo-Tholians with PCs would either be purely conjectural or would require rewriting SFU history. So personally, I'm less interested in those.

YMMV, obviously.

By Mike Grafton (Mike_Grafton) on Thursday, January 05, 2023 - 08:29 am: Edit

The question is whether the Tholians found Disruptors (and the occasional Photon) better than PCs.

I think not.

I WOULD be interested in an analysis of how PCs on Tholians work in synergy with WebCasters.