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| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, June 12, 2025 - 02:17 pm: Edit |
No, no, not the squirt gun, anything but that!
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, June 12, 2025 - 10:18 pm: Edit |
Israel has launched a series of air strikes on Iranian nuclear and missile production facilities. One strike killed the supreme marshal of the Iranian Republican Guard.
Apparently there were no attacks on the Iranian Democratic Guard or the Iranian Libertarian Guard.
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, June 12, 2025 - 10:21 pm: Edit |
Israel is bracing for a counter attack, canceling school and work for tomorrow.
| By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Thursday, June 12, 2025 - 10:24 pm: Edit |
Don't think we will hear any "They did that without telling the President".....
Last 3 days (at least), Diplomatic personnel/families have been withdrawn from the Middle East....
One action, that didn't cross my mind, hearing about it, though no other incident had occurred that might proceed it.....
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, June 12, 2025 - 10:39 pm: Edit |
Israel says Iran has refined enough fissile material to make nine bombs.
The US has evacuated dependents of US military personnel and diplomats.
The US says no US forces were involved.
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, June 12, 2025 - 11:27 pm: Edit |
The US has warned Iran to not attack US bases.
Israel says the attacks will continue until Iran’s nuclear program is totally destroyed. Operation Rising Lion was based on new intelligence that Iran’s enrichment program was nearing critical mess.
A second wave of attacks has been completed and a third wave is entering Iran.
| By Mike Erickson (Mike_Erickson) on Thursday, June 12, 2025 - 11:29 pm: Edit |
I wonder what path(s) the aircraft took to reach their targets? And which ME governments allowed the Israeli aircraft to fly over them?
--Mike
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, June 12, 2025 - 11:29 pm: Edit |
Israel got bunker buster bombs from Trump months ago and has used them tonight.
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, June 12, 2025 - 11:55 pm: Edit |
The attack came 61 days after Trump told Iran to negotiate or else. There is no question in my mind that Trump not only knew but hand a finger in the pot.
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, June 13, 2025 - 12:10 am: Edit |
Trump just confirmed to FOX that he knew about the attack well in advance.
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, June 13, 2025 - 12:25 am: Edit |
At least a dozen of Iran’s top leaders have died in the last few hours. Supreme nation leader Khaneni survived. Iran says the US was behind the attack. Israel’s non-existent nuclear missiles are on alert. This includes Jericho land-based missiles and submarine launched cruise missiles. Imaginary nuclear bombs are already hung on Israeli F15E strike aircraft. At least one US warship armed with nuclear cruise missiles is nowhere near Iran. Iran says its top nuclear scientists were killed, some in their private homes. Various sources report Iran has anything from six incomplete nuclear bombs to fifteen complete bombs. Iran is reportedly trying to target a USN carrier near Oman and fifth fleet HQ in Bahrain.
Targets destroyed include
Bonanza atomic energy research center
Arak heavy water reactor
Isfahan nuclear fuel production site
Ardakan nuclear fuel unit
Natanz nuclear enrichment plant
Several military headquarters and commo centers
| By Paul Howard (Raven) on Friday, June 13, 2025 - 02:40 am: Edit |
Fingers crossed this doesn't escalate.
Price of Oil will no doubt spike today and we will see no doubt by Monday whether price will continue to rise (as tensions/escalation does) or if prices will stablise.
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, June 13, 2025 - 04:19 am: Edit |
Israeli aircraft doubtless overflew Syria, Jordan, and Iraq.
That’s the map, not a secret source. Jordan has closed its airspace.
| By Carl-Magnus Carlsson (Hardcore) on Friday, June 13, 2025 - 11:21 am: Edit |
The WH house was certainly informed, it appears the preparations have taken months however. Apparently Mossad attacked the Iranian defences with drones from clandestine bases INSIDE the country. That is not something you set up quickly.
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, June 13, 2025 - 01:06 pm: Edit |
I haven’t heard about drones inside Iran. That’s a Ukrainian trick. But it took seconds to find sources showing it to be true. Wow, just wow. I smell a curious coincidence.
| By Paul Howard (Raven) on Friday, June 13, 2025 - 03:44 pm: Edit |
Well, Israel appears to have launched attacks today and Iran has retaliated with Ballistic Missiles - and some seem to have got through Israeli ABM defences.
At what point is a NBC weapon used in error by either side?
Is France or Russia the most regarded 'friend' of both Israel and Iran - i.e. who might be able to talk the latest escalations down?
...as with what going on, someone, somewhere will make a mistake (and it's not as if we haven't had two nuclear nations attack either other earlier this year, wirh India ansd Pakistan) - chance of something unexpected/in error happening must be increasing?
Was at Financial Sevices event on Wednesday - and they was takling about Miltiary expenditure and Drones.... and both Israel, Ukraine and Turkey was mentioned.
Who has bought drones from Turkey?
| By Paul Howard (Raven) on Friday, June 13, 2025 - 03:59 pm: Edit |
Jordanians are also saying they shot down some of the Iranian Missles crossing their airspace... and the US is also assiting Israel.
Israel also seem to be trying to promote an Iranian uprising.
Is there much anti-Government opposition to the Irananian Government (every nation has some, but does it actually have modest ground support)?
| By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Friday, June 13, 2025 - 04:13 pm: Edit |
Caught a bit about US Aircraft being moved from Qatar to Israel....
Not sure I understand that, unless they are going to hand them off to the IDF....
| By Paul Howard (Raven) on Friday, June 13, 2025 - 04:50 pm: Edit |
So has an Israeli Female Pilot been shot down??
Iran claims to hvae shot down 2 Israeli planes.
Ignoring the fact the Israeli's have 'good planes, good pilots and good training' - and the Iranians probably don't - SAMS can always get an aircaft with luck (the F117 in the Serbian War for example).
Tomorrow hopefully will be a good day for speaking and resolving this peacefully.
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, June 13, 2025 - 06:17 pm: Edit |
I don't see this ending soon. To do so, someone has to totally change their religious beliefs. Actually, a few million someones.
| By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Friday, June 13, 2025 - 07:51 pm: Edit |
USAF and RAF likely to be used to shoot down incoming Iranian drones or aircraft.
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, June 13, 2025 - 08:09 pm: Edit |
Iran has fired ballistic missiles into Tel Aviv and other areas. Some got through and killed civilians. The US Army is in Israel with THAAD and Patriot missiles.
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, June 14, 2025 - 03:53 pm: Edit |
Busy News Day
Israel and Iran continue to exchange attacks. Three dead and 70 injured in Israel. Trump trying to restart talks on Iran giving up nuclear program, Iran is not interested. Israeli agents convinced thirty top Iranian Air Force commanders to attend a meeting, then the IAF bombed the meeting, killing them all. Over 20 Iranian generals, at least twelve nuclear scientists, at least ten top civilian leaders are dead. Israel is shifting to economic targets, including refineries, power plants, gas fields. Israel is openly calling for a regime changing revolt in Iran.
Two hundred and fifty years of US Army celebrated with events and parade. Also celebrating Flag Day and Trump’s birthday. 6000 troops, 128 vehicles, $45 million, vintage vehicles and aircraft.
No Kings day, hundreds of anti-trump protests across the country. Expected to be mostly peaceful.
Texas capital building evacuated due to threat of some kind of violent attack.
Assassin dressed as state cop kills one Dem politician and her husband in Minnesota and wounded a second politician and his wife. The wounded politician called for help, police sent officers to other politicians who lived within a few miles. One team accidentally discovered the assassin and exchanged gunfire. The assassin fled on foot and over the last 12 hours has either found a hiding place or escaped. Police are seeking him and multiple possible accomplices, so he may have has escape plans set up ahead of time. Trump issued statement condemning violence. AG Bondi promised help and full prosecution. All Minnesota politicians are being taken under protection.
| By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, June 14, 2025 - 04:20 pm: Edit |
Minnesota assassin Vance Boelter identified as head of a security company who has been trained in military and police procedures and had access to extensive resources of info and equipment. He has a network of friends he might be able to call on.
| By Paul Howard (Raven) on Saturday, June 14, 2025 - 04:57 pm: Edit |
"Israel is openly calling for a regime changing revolt in Iran."
Poltically and Militarily, I am not sure this is good or bad news for Israel?
If your a current Iranian senior person... you have nothing to lose and would some Neutral nations feel they would away from supporting Israel??
| By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Saturday, June 14, 2025 - 11:24 pm: Edit |
A sad day in Minnesota.
Targeted assassinations. Law enforcement is said to have released that specific information to calm the civilian population, the idea being that since the victims were selected, the general population is safe from random attack.
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