Jan 2021: Mines, All Mines!

Star Fleet Universe Discussion Board: Shapeways Project: Ships for Shapeways Approval: Jan 2021: Mines, All Mines!
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By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 02:21 pm: Edit

Cool.

By Aaron Staley (Awwwdrat) on Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 04:00 pm: Edit

Im on board. As long as they are not huge and overly expensive.

By Jeff Anderson (Jga) on Friday, December 18, 2020 - 11:03 am: Edit

They look cool, but if I may play "Devil's Advocate?"

Mines are hard to detect (stealthy); a characteristic that, at least to me, suggests they might have a more angular appearance (a la F-117, perhaps?)

By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Friday, December 18, 2020 - 12:29 pm: Edit

Always thought of Drone Mines having internal bays,
for Stealth reasons...
Not like a Scatterpack.......

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Friday, December 18, 2020 - 05:58 pm: Edit

Maybe so but minis are all about the visual ...

By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Friday, December 18, 2020 - 06:37 pm: Edit

My first impression was the Chaparral on the M113....

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, December 21, 2020 - 03:52 pm: Edit

Here are the explosive mines by Will McC:

Explosive-Mines700.jpg

He wants them approved for January so give me your comments ASAP.

I approved the Captors.

By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Monday, December 21, 2020 - 05:19 pm: Edit

Other than some reference to understand their size...

Good Great....

By Aaron Staley (Awwwdrat) on Monday, December 21, 2020 - 06:22 pm: Edit

I like them but im interested in how big they actually are.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, December 21, 2020 - 08:14 pm: Edit

Note the collars for standard stands.

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Monday, December 21, 2020 - 08:42 pm: Edit

Yeah, these are fine. Personal opinion, however, is I think the number of sensors is overkill. If I were the one creating them, I would have gone with one on top (north pole), four at 45-deg up at 45/135/225/315 deg, and four on the equator at 0/90/180/270. The five in the southern hemisphere wouldn't be shown due to the mounting socket.

That said, I see no reason to change them if everyone else is okay with them. As I said, they're fine as-is.


Garth L. Getgen

By Joe Carlson (Jrc) on Monday, December 21, 2020 - 09:05 pm: Edit

These look great.

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Monday, December 21, 2020 - 10:50 pm: Edit

Given the minimum cost Shapeways charges to produce an item would a double-sided sprue (12 mines) be feasible?

By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 09:51 am: Edit


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Given the minimum cost Shapeways charges to produce an item would a double-sided sprue (12 mines) be feasible?




Makes me think, small on one size... Large on the other...

Price wise, would a circular sprue be more or less expensive... easier or harder to print...

By Aaron Staley (Awwwdrat) on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 10:13 am: Edit

I like the number of sensors.
I also like the idea of large and small mines on the same sprue.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 11:54 am: Edit

I definitely think we need large and small mines, I like the multiple sensors, and a bigger sprue with more mines might be more economical. I wonder, Will, if the space between the mines could not be smaller, wasting less material and using a smaller bounding box.

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 06:07 pm: Edit

Hmmm, four small, two large??

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 07:00 pm: Edit

Or eight smalls and four large.


I should know this ... are small mines the same as T-bombs??


Garth L. Getgen

By Aaron Staley (Awwwdrat) on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 07:19 pm: Edit

Yes. Small mines=t bombs.
I could live with 4 small 2 large.
I would rather have 6 small, 4 large.

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 11:34 pm: Edit

Perhaps a later sprue with a mix of Large and small captor mines and some sensor mines.

(M6.2) A standard minefield has 15 large, 40 small, 3 large captor, 7 small captor, and 4 sensor mines.

By Jeff Wile (Jswile) on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 - 08:50 am: Edit

With a additional Mine Sprue it should be possible to assemble most of a mine package field.

If a second Sprue was composed of a large mine, 1small mines, 1 large Captor, 2 small Captor, 1 Sensor mine, a set of 3 plus 6 of the first mine Sprue (6*6=36) would have 3 large mines, (36+3=39) small mines, 3 large captor mines, 6 small captor mines, 3 sensor mines.

If a large mine Sprue were added, 2 of the this third type Sprue would allow for a almost full (M6.2) Standard Mine Field.

15 Large Mines, (15 required.)
39 Small Mines, (40 required.)
3 Large Captor Mines, (3 required.)
6 Small Captor Mines, (7 required)
3 Sensor Mines, (4 required.)

Composed of 6 small mine Sprue, 3 special mine Sprue set (each having 1 lg, 1 sm, 1 lg captor, 2 sm captor, 1 Sensor.) And 2 Large Mine Sprue(each having 6 large Mines.)

Still short 1 small mine, 1 small captor mine, and a sensor mine. Total mines would be 66 mines compared to 69 in a full mine package of 69 mines specified per rule (M6.2).

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Thursday, December 24, 2020 - 01:44 am: Edit

Maybe the Emperor meant to Order 66 :)

By AW Cookson (Awcookson) on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 - 10:06 pm: Edit

I think some of the stubs should be replaced with mini sensor dishes to get away from the WWII look they have.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, January 12, 2021 - 12:59 am: Edit

I don't think anyone ever worked out the proper mix of large/small mines on sprues. Will, review the comments and figure out something and send it in.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, January 12, 2021 - 01:00 am: Edit

Will, review the comments, come up with a sprue mixing two smalls for every one big, and send it to Jean when convenient. Sorry, I have been so buried in countersheets that I forgot and nobody reminded me to go approve stuff.


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