Archive through December 14, 2012

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By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 12:17 pm: Edit

Module C1: WYN: (R12.1D) The WYN did not need nor ever operated starbases or mobile bases.

Module C3: Seltorians: (R15.15) Battle Station, R(15.16) Starbase, and (R15.17) all include the following statement: "None were used in this galaxy." Indicating that these units were not built in the Milky Way during the time of active combat operations between the Seltorians and the Tholians.

The above is the limit of the SFU material outside of F&E material that I currently have available to me. There may be more information in other R modules and in Captain's Logs that I do not currently have access to changing or affirming the above information.

By Ryan Opel (Ryan) on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 03:16 pm: Edit

Module C3A; LDR; BTX at home is the largest built.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 03:48 pm: Edit

...need to also check the R1.0 sections in SFB.

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 04:22 pm: Edit

X1R; R12.205; states that the WYN had only 1 X base immediately after the War of Return (presumably at the end of Y187)

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 08:06 pm: Edit

CL37 (History of the WYN Navy) states that the WYN had a BATS at the major planet Vanonia

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 07:30 pm: Edit

WYN; R1.47; the WYN never operated a STB.

By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 07:53 pm: Edit

WYN Star Cluster Planets Per CL37 History of the WYN Navy:

4xMAJOR
Kamchatki, Plesetsk, Vanonia (Capital), and Zinfarst

4xMINOR
Belarus, Freeholm (Orion shipyard), Hyperialis, and Kostromskya

By Eric Smith (Badsyntax) on Monday, October 29, 2012 - 11:01 pm: Edit

Isn't this the next F&E project? If so, anything I can do to help?

By David C. Murphy (Godsgopher) on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 11:13 pm: Edit

I'm just arriving on the F&E Forums myself and I have the same question as Eric Smith. What can I do to help as I am greatly interested in the prospect of this new expansion.

Not only do I love the story of the WYN Civil War, or the Seltorians Tribunal's resumption of punishing the Tholians. But this looks like an exceptional opportunity to create a number of limited wars that can easily be played out in a single evening with a friend. Something very desirable for those of us who can't leave the game board set up for weeks on end.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Sunday, December 09, 2012 - 08:51 pm: Edit

Here is a small project to help with the development of our Civil Wars product.

I need someone to look at all of the SFB campaign scenarios and report back if any involving the Vudar, LDR, WYN/Usurper, Seltorians, Rolandus Romulans where updated in a Captain's Log. Please report back here for the log number, empire and campaign number where the update occurred.

Thanks.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, December 10, 2012 - 02:42 am: Edit

Here's another small project for those of you who play SFB.

If one was to fully weaponize one large and one small armed frieghter with duck tails/skids/scoops/whatever how would the rate BPV-wise? Assume the ships to be based on Lyran
versions. I'm only looking at added pieces to the hull NOT interior added features/equipment/personnel. Not carriers/mine sweeper versions please -- just a fully weaponized armed frieghters.

Format like this:
F&E UnitSFB DesignationUnit BPVAdded Item-1BPV-1Added Item-2BPV-2Added Item-3BPV-3TOTAL BPV
LAAF-LA........
SAAF-SA........


This exercise will help establish LDR COMPOTs for these units.

By Stewart W Frazier (Frazikar2) on Monday, December 10, 2012 - 08:51 pm: Edit

Let's see if this works

F&E UnitSFB DesignationUnit BPVAdded Item-1BPV-1Added Item-2BPV-2Added Item-3BPV-3TOTAL BPV
LAAF-LA (1.21)P75SD1 (1.68T)10SD1 (1.68T)10PP (1.69B2)10/4105/99
SAAF-SA (1.20)P36SD1 (1.68T)10PP (1.69A2)8/3..54/49


SAA - +2xPh2, +2 DrnA/B, +4 APR
LAA - +4xPh2, +4 DrnA/B, +5 APR

By Dal Downing (3deez) on Monday, December 10, 2012 - 09:19 pm: Edit

Just speculation but wouldn't a Lyran Self Defense skid be all phasers and no drones. I guess a argument could be made that they bought Klingon Skids but for the most part ESGs and Drones do not really mix right.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 01:10 am: Edit

..for the most part ESGs and Drones do not really mix right...well at least on the same ship.

These units cannot carry ESGs.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 01:14 am: Edit

Thanks Stew for the data.

By Dal Downing (3deez) on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 07:30 am: Edit

Chuck correct but, they will be operating with units the probably can and will be carrying ESGs.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 07:39 am: Edit

Dal, the Lyrans and LDR both have had carriers with fighters that use drones for years.

By A. David Merritt (Adm) on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 08:45 am: Edit

A hand full of carrier units with a dedicated supply chain is very different than a freighter plug-in that has to depend, at best, on an overworked Police supply chain, that is always last in line.

Although I will grant the possibility that the wide spread use of bombers in LDR space may mitigate the supply issue a bit.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 03:26 pm: Edit

ADM:
You do know that we are talking about the LDR? They had little choice than to use up-gunned armed freighters and with these smaller hulls the drones don't eat power like the Disr/Phas mounts. Besides, they do have built-in storage to act as self-supply.

By Terry O'Carroll (Terryoc) on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 04:16 pm: Edit

I still can't see Lyrans, either regular or democratic, using drones on auxiliaries. It's not part of their technology base - the fighters they used are purchased foreign fighters, after all.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 04:54 pm: Edit

Nonetheless both empires use drone armed fighters...and armed freighters don't mount ESGs.

Besides, it matters not as this exercise was to help provide data points to figure-out LDR LAA/SAA compot values and not debate adding drones racks to LDR armed freighter SSDs. I got what I needed from my staffer.

By A. David Merritt (Adm) on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 08:16 pm: Edit

Raider:

Yes I do know that you are talking about the LDR, and I am quite familiar with their background. I did however; double check the relevant R-Sections in case I misremembered something.

According to (R14.25) AUXILIARIES the LDR uses the same armed freighters that the Lyrans use. According to the various Small and Large freighter SSDs (1991 version), the Lyrans use Phaser and Disruptor armed freighters, they do not use Drone armed freighters.

However, it was a very good thing I checked R-Sections, because (R1.68T) Self-Defense Skid Type I is allowed for Lyrans, and by extension the LDR. This skid has two drone racks.

Morale of the story, always double check before you run your mouth.

By Stewart W Frazier (Frazikar2) on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 08:32 pm: Edit

While the Lyrans may not use (many) SD1 skids, the LDR probably would due to the extra firepower offered...

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:56 pm: Edit

Research Staff:

1. Where can we find the story about the Lyran lead-up to the General War and the why the Lyrans attacked to Kzinti instead of the Hydrans?

2. Where is the information published as to why the Far Stars led the trimaran development for the Lyrans.

3. Request info and sources citations of stories/scenarios of internal Lyran skirmishes from Y130 to Y168.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 12:31 am: Edit

2. The Foremost started the Trimaran development. See (R13.11) in SFB.

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