This game I'm obviously building B10s and do intend to build all 4 if the game goes that long.

I normally don't build B10s in a basic F&E 2010 game, they are EXTREMELY expensive and though extra compot (later) is nice, the EPs could easily be used early on to buy more SEQs, carriers, more field repair, more complete repair, etc to increase the tempo of attacks early in the game.

Perhaps one B10 wouldn't bee too bad an investment in the long term, but I really don't think more is a good idea.

YMMV.

That being said, I am building them all this game, just because I never have and wanted to trry something different.

Also, if SFGs are in play, this becomes a COMPLETELY different story. Multiple B10AAs in a battle force are a terror worth every EP in my opinion. Try to pair up B10AAs (for the 4 SFG rolls on the excellent B10 table), obviously have mauler support and D6Js as well as good EW units and they'll have a major impact on the course of the game. I don't favor making them into carriers or SCSs as that takes away the ability to really stack compot if you really need it.

By Sam Benner (Nucaranlaeg) on Saturday, June 08, 2019 - 09:04 pm: Edit

I'm interested to see whether B10s do anything significant. It's likely that they would be worse if I had focussed more on pincount than on quality ships, so maybe this is the best game for you to try them out in. ;)

In other news, the Romulans have decided that they're going to try to take advantage of the Federation being distracted by the Klingons. Hopefully the Feds can hold on long enough to get some support from the Gorn and Kzinti.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Saturday, June 08, 2019 - 10:08 pm: Edit

C10 Operational movement has begun. The Coalition pile a bunch of ships on 0617 and seal off the off map area (again).

Ok, they didn't do the second thing yet.

But they will.

Over on the Fed/Romulan front, Klingons from SB 3013 have pinned Fed reserves at 3008. The Romulans have been working on pinning a reserve at Sigma Draconis.

So far the last Fed reserve at 6th Fleet SB (and other ships there as well) are not yet pinned.

Yet.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Sunday, June 16, 2019 - 12:04 pm: Edit

Operational movement is over.

In Kzinti space, a DF that was keeping supply open to a (small) fleet at 1802 is being attacked, a reserve came but the Kziinti cannot hold if the Coalition want to drive them back,

*In Hydran space, reserves can't move. A ton of Coalition ships have piled onto 0617 and all on map Hydran planets will be taken. Hydran reserves are offmap and cannot move on map.

*In Western Fed space, the Klingons attack BATS 2003) and the three planets nearby, all will fall.

*Planets 2106 and 2306 will also be captured.
*At planet 2810 a ton of Fed ships are facing off against a bunch of Klingons, here the Klingons may not capture the hex. The planet here has a MB and 4 PDU, so the defense is tough.

*In Eastern Fed space, all the Fed reserves got pinned.

*Reserves at SB 3008 are pinned, as is the reserve at 3609.

*Three Fed planets in this teatre will probably be captured, and five or six battle stations destroyed (and the two NZ planets also getting captured). Those targets are not defended by starfleet (for the most part).

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Sunday, June 16, 2019 - 09:46 pm: Edit

Combat starts. The Kzinti send one reserve to 1701 and kill a DW but lose an EFF, then retreat offmap.

*The Lyrans capture 0416.

At 0617, The Coalition redevastates all of the devastated Hydran planets. The Hydrans do not defend them.

Then they go attack at Hydrax.

The Coalition sends 3C8 3DN BT 3BC STT CC D7C 3D6D F5S against 2PAL 2BT LB 2DG 5RN SB FRD SC.

Compot is 154 vs 195.

Coalition pick BIR 4, Hydrans go 2, the BIR results at 6, Coalition rolls a 1 and mauls a PAL, Hydrans roll a 2 and have 54 damage awaiting directed damage decision.

Combat continues.

By Sam Benner (Nucaranlaeg) on Monday, June 17, 2019 - 07:43 am: Edit

Second round, the Hydrans foolishly leave their second PAL out of formation, and it gets blown up. On the bright side, they got 50% of 188!

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Monday, June 17, 2019 - 10:44 am: Edit

On R1 the Coalition suffer a D6M destroyed and cripple BC CC D7C F5S.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Monday, June 17, 2019 - 12:36 pm: Edit

Coalition also kill 24 Hydran fighter factors.

Coalition on round two lose a SC rather than a D7. Coalition also cripple 3C8 BT CC 2D7.

By Alan De Salvio (Alandwork) on Monday, June 17, 2019 - 06:15 pm: Edit

Foolishly leave their second PAL out of formation? How many form slots do you have - are the Hydrans using echelon technology? I believe one or both were going to be outside the form.

By Sam Benner (Nucaranlaeg) on Monday, June 17, 2019 - 10:29 pm: Edit

I had two PALs, blown up in two rounds. :P

Plus a third in the old colonies.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - 12:36 am: Edit

The third one isn't going to get blown up, being at least 2500 parsecs from the 0617 battle.

Round 4 just finished, destroyed ships include 2PAL, TG+BP, 2DN D6M F5S. The Coalition captured a Hydran RN.

By Alan De Salvio (Alandwork) on Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - 05:08 pm: Edit

I see. That, as they say, is F&E. Pause the combat, reserve the Old Colonies in there, and go for the trifecta.

By Sam Benner (Nucaranlaeg) on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 - 04:28 pm: Edit

The Hydran capital has fallen.

Over the course of 9 rounds, the Hydrans rolled an average of 4 (2,6,3,1,5,6,2,5,6) to the Coalition's 2.33 (1,3,3,1,1,2,5,1,4). That's about 70 damage the coalition missed out on by rolling lower than the 3.5 average. Plus, one of the Hydran's 6s was on a 10 BIR, so luck certainly favoured me (a lot!) this battle.

The Hydrans emptied the FCP after round 7. That's an extra 27 compot I wouldn't have had for the last two rounds - I think it was probably the best time for using it. As we're just using the basic rules, it can't be refilled. Plus, that's 27 extra fighters for A10, when those ships are out of supply.

Hydrans Killed: 2PAL TG+BP 2RN 2CR SB (65+24.5 = 89.5+SB)
Hydrans Crippled: 3rn cv de cr 2ah sc (14)
Lyrans Killed: 2DN 2BC CC CW SC (73)
Lyrans Crippled: tgc(2BP) bc 2cc 5cw sc (17)
Klingons Killed: D6M D7 (16)
Klingons Crippled: 3c8 d7c 2d7 d5v ad5 9d5 f5e 4f5s (36.5)

Coalition total dead: 89 EP
Coalition repair bill: 53.5 EP

One Hydran CR was self-killed, and the Lyran SC was autokilled. Obviously, my accidentally letting Richard kill the second PAL was a huge blunder, and the real EP loss is closer to 65 than 89 for the Hydrans (the remainder is just two turns of FFFs). 39.5 EPs extra in repair costs is also nice.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 - 06:07 pm: Edit

the fighter capacity is a real loss as its not like you get additional FFF to replace the capacity, unless you were just not going to use the existing upcoming FFF, which isn't the case.

Anywho, the Coalition bled for it, but 0617 has been conquered. Now just need to take Earth. :p

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Saturday, June 22, 2019 - 04:20 pm: Edit

C10 Combat is over.

Much of the northw4st Federation has been captured, at least temporarily.

The Hydrans have lost all planets on map in Hydran space.

The Federation has lost most bases in the SE quarter of the map, the 6th Fleet SB and one BATS remain, all other bases and planets destroyed/captured.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Sunday, June 30, 2019 - 02:34 pm: Edit

Turn 10 is over.

In the Fed Klingon theatre, the Klingons have a forward fleet ontop an FRD in 2109, three good size reserves are present (two quite strong). The Federation have a lot of ships between those Klingons and Earth. The Klingons currently have pickets controlling most of NW, SW, and southern Fed space (with a big fleet on top of a SB at 3013, where the Romulans are setting up a MB).

In the Kzinti theatre, minor planet 1101 is uncontrolled by the Coalition, but most kzinti ships are offmap (with a few at planet 1802 but cut off from offmap). The Coalition have enough ships at 1402 to drive off any attacks against 1401 or planets 1502, 1504 or 1202. Two reserves are here as well, one of good strength, the other a paper tiger.

In the Hydran theatre, the Hydran fleet retreating from 0617 ends up in 0518, they can retake 0519 easily next turn (as moving away from 0617 keeps the Coalition there from reacting and fighting over planet 0519), but it's unlikely they'll be able to retake any other Hydran planet (which are all captured). Currently this fleet is out of supply and has 37 fighter factors.

The Hydrans have considerable forces offmap. Hexes 0117-0119 have 11 Coalition ships each which kept reserves offmap this turn, but those forces are maily FFs or so led by D6s and won't be a serious problem for the Hydrans next turn.
Nineteen small Klingon ships retrograded to 1013 (F5Ls and FVs) presumably these will relocate out of the Hydran theatre in future turns. Plenty of Coalition cripples in 1013 and elsewhere will need to be repaired. A Klingon F5 leads a two ship reserve at 0718 (the other ships ia a Lyran BC) to complicate Hydran moves a bit. That Lyran ship Captain is probably fuming at being led by an F5 flagship.

In the Romulan Fed theatre, a decent Klingon reserve is at 3013. The Romulans didn't picket all the provinces in this area, but all planets were capturesd and all but one BATS destroyed. However, the hardest target (the 6th Fleet SB) is still intact with a significant Fed fleet there. Fed ships are otherwise scattered around this area in modest numbers.
The NZ planets go captured of course, most of the Romulan home fleet capturing Helvitia and the Klingons taking possession of Denebola. The Klingons are also building a MB at the Romulan West Fleet SB and seem to be making a supply chain to support operations int he Romulan theatre. Significant forces of the Romulans have been left forward deplayed, but the Feds probably won't be able to take much advantage.
There weren't a lot of Romulan ships avaialble to be in position and qualifed to be a reserrve, a moderate and a small reserve are both near Helvetia.

Dead units for rthe turn:
Neutral: 4PDU
Lyran: 2DN 2BC CC CW DW SC
Kzintis: EFF
Klingons: D6M 2D7 F5E F5S
Hydrans: 2PAL TG(BP) 2RN(one captured) 2CR SB FRD
Feds: CA 8BATS MB(not set up) 18PDU
Romulans: FAL

All Fed F14 and F15 ground based fighter factorrs saw combat (and were destroyed) this turn. Pesky Fed super fighters!

Lots of Coalition cripples as well and a Few alliance cripples. Anywho turn is over now. Alliance has done survey rolls and will probably get their eco done soon.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Sunday, June 30, 2019 - 02:55 pm: Edit

That Kzinti FF that was captured by the Lyrans and then the Hydrans is currently in the Old Colonies and has in fact been repaired and converted into Hydran technology.

Maintenance duties on that ship must be challenging at this point.

By Sam Benner (Nucaranlaeg) on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 08:55 am: Edit

A10 econ saw nothing exciting, just the Feds building their default build and the Hydrans and Kzinti working on their shipyards. Kzinti shipyard is slated for completion in A11.

Really, my goal with that frigate is to get it captured by the Klingons.

By Sam Benner (Nucaranlaeg) on Saturday, July 06, 2019 - 08:09 pm: Edit

Richard: I'm having issues sending you emails. Is your email otherwise working fine?

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Saturday, July 06, 2019 - 08:40 pm: Edit

I just tested by sending myself an email from an alternate email and it worked. I haven't noticed any problems.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Saturday, July 06, 2019 - 09:58 pm: Edit

Mayby just post moves here until the email starts working?

By Sam Benner (Nucaranlaeg) on Tuesday, July 09, 2019 - 11:54 pm: Edit

Okay, so A10 Operational movement is done.

The Hydrans aren't out of supply for combat, so that's good. They'll be able to retrograde their cripples offmap. There's one battle where the Lyrans might be able to pick off an rn or two and one where the Hydrans will kill a small ship and cripple a bunch more.

Feds are fighting a few province raiders and staging a large assault on SB 3013. It's out of range of any reserves, and the Feds have 105 hulls to the Coalition's 87. Perhaps more importantly, there's only one CR 10 ship available to the Coalition (not counting the SB) - a TG-A+2BP. That might be worth taking out. The Romulan MB being set up in 3013 will also be destroyed.

The minor planet in 2715 is going to be recaptured, so there won't be a supply path to the Romulans on C11 (even if the SB survives).

By Sam Benner (Nucaranlaeg) on Friday, July 12, 2019 - 09:01 am: Edit

Combat in A10 is wrapping up with just the big battle remaining. We're 2 rounds into combat over the starbase, and we've had some big damage numbers so far. 51+72 to the Feds, 35+51 to the Coalition. I'm going high BIR to lower the variance, as I think I can take it (though this will be bad if I don't). Richard is presumably going high BIR to do more damage.

Cripples so far:
Fed: 5NCL 2NEC 4DE FFS (17.5EP)
Klingon: D6D 2AD5 2F5E 3D7 (13EP)

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Friday, July 12, 2019 - 01:18 pm: Edit

Sam

I can't see how 105 Hulls will kill a SB with 87 defending hulls...other than SIDDing the SB to death.

Even say just the SB gives just +33% compot - to cripple say 75 Coalition hulls, will cripple 100 Alliance hulls - so the Feds run out of ships before the Coalition will.

(Unless the bulk of the Feds is NCL and up and the Coalition DW/F5L and below etc).

Whats SID's or deaths have occurred so far?

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Friday, July 12, 2019 - 01:20 pm: Edit

I've certainly done that before: Attack a heavily defended SB with the goal of SIDSing it to death. It's not ideal, of course, but if you really need that SB to go down, it works.